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[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 98 points 1 year ago

There's other engines, this will kill unity

[-] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago

I know and thank goodness for that... but there will be projects that simply won't be able to afford to move to entirely different engines. It's a lot of work that might have to be redone.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

There's going to be a lot of money on the table for another engine that can build a unity migration or abstraction tool

I don't see that being left on the table for long

[-] Asifall@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I’m sure someone will try, but it seems nearly impossible to do this in a way that’s actually useful. Most game engines are going to have fundamental differences that won’t easily map to the unity way of doing things

Art assets, sound effects, storylines, that sort of thing transfers pretty easily.

Rigging, animations, scripting, physics...these pretty much don't and would have to be rewritten from scratch.

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

... not really, and for what a few years? Indie devs don't have a lot of money, and there is a huge discrepancy between unity and other engines. They work in fundamentally different ways.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There are some pretty big games built in unity, the money on the table is coming from them, (assuming reasonable licensing terms) not the small indie games.

I may be entirely off the mark, as I don't work in that part of the industry. But I've messed around with unity and it's not particularly unique compared to any other engine it competes with in my experience, particularly when it comes to actual runtime. Assets will need conversion and sure, the API shim will probably give a performance hit, but there's no reason I can see that unity is fundamentally different.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm in the middle of a project right now that's going to be released on an out-of-date engine because the newest versions broke backward compatibility and I'm too far along to port everything. If I had to change engines entirely at this point I'd have to cancel the entire project.

[-] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 36 points 1 year ago

It's probably still going to take some projects with it. If you've sunk hundreds or even thousands of manhours into a project you can't just... do it again, or at least not always. Especially not if you've invested money as well as time, which is probably the case for most indie projects that aren't literal one-person shows.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Honest question though, what other small engines have the support and features of unity while also having the permissive licensing they used to have?

At least when I was looking into engines unreal and unity really stood out as the only useable free engines.

[-] Defaced@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

There's unreal, Godot, and a couple others I can't think of off the top of my head. They're not as widely used because they lack the feature set of unreal and unity, but they're out there.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That’s pretty much what I thought. Unity is so big because it offers a ton of features with a pretty permissive license. There’s not something comparable except unreal, which has an even worse licensing situation

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The thing about Unreal is that you can always negotiate with Epic Games. And if they like your project, they can even invest or provide tech support.

[-] EnglishMobster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I dunno if Epic's licensing is worse. At least it's a cut of revenue and not charging per install.

Not to mention that Epic gives sweetheart deals to indies periodically. They make their money from Fortnite, not the engine.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I'm not a game engineer, so someone else who's actually in that segment of the industry can probably give more answers, but Godot and Bevy seem to be making some waves.

And if they're not enough for what a dev needs, given these license changes, I don't really understand why someone wouldn't pick unreal or something much more comprehensive over unity now.

Correct me if I'm off the mark, but unity always seemed like what you'd go for if you wanted something like unreal, but (completely understandably) didn't want to pay the fees associated with it

[-] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I only prefer unity for 2 reasons, 1. I have assets that I've purchased. 2 I like c#.

[-] Vittelius@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago
  1. You can actually import assets from unity into godot using a 3rd party add-on (If the assets license allows is)
  2. Godot has C# scripting

It depends on the game you're making.

Godot has a dedicated workflow for 2D games, so I'd rather make one of those color sorting puzzle games that's all people play on mobile these days in Godot than Unity or Unreal.

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