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I'm a liberal gun owner.
Neither gun owners nor conservatives have bloodlust. What we do have is disdain for laws that don't actually help the problem but just punish gun owners.
Take this 10 round magazine law. You know what is the difference between a 10-round mag and a larger one? A little rivet pin that stops you from putting in an 11th cartridge. Anyone with a cordless drill can remove the rivet and turn their 10-round mag into a bigger one. Anyone with a 3d printer can make a larger magazine. A magazine is just a box with a spring and some plastic bits. Making it longer is not rocket science.
The threat of 'drilling this rivet is a felony' does not stop someone who wants to commit mass murder. This law does not stop murderers or save lives. It just makes life harder for gun owners, as the pinned magazine is much harder to clean.
I'll also remind you that the guy who shot up VA tech had a .22 pistol (pretty much the least powerful gun you can buy) and a backpack full of 10-round magazines. He complied with the law and it didn't slow him down.
So stop accusing people of having bloodlust, and ask why they don't support the law that seems obvious to you. You might learn something.
Tl;dr you're a conservative cosplaying liberal.
It's things like this which makes it difficult to take people like you seriously.
Liberalgunowners exist.
Armed black, gay, trans folk help keep the peace during BLM.
many of these weird gun laws do very little to actually stop gun violence, but instead expand the divide between the rich vs disenfranchised. .
Not to mention at minimum some of the gun laws in our past have been put into effect due to racism including those pushed by Reagan due to the black panthers.
This is the issue with politics in the US in general here.
I’m also a liberal gun owner. If you categorize people with a strict “with us or against us” mentality, where they are expected to agree with every one of your opinions, you cease to have useful discourse and become a part of the problem.
Your opposition to guns is damaging to the marginalized communities you probably claim to support.