205
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] li10@feddit.uk 84 points 1 year ago

You’d have to be a masochist to actually play this on steam deck or with any controller.

Unless they have some sort of “steam deck only” matchmaking, but even then it’s just not made for controller.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

You can use a keyboard and mouse with the steam deck. Probably not super common but definitely doable.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

It’s plenty common. I have a dock all set up as do many others!

[-] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago

It's not a standard xbox controller. There's a gyro with several ways to handle it, including flick, which does take a little time to get used to, but works really well as a mouse substitution for such an environment. Some people are just that good with a thumbstick as well and can easily enjoy casual gamemodes.

Steam Deck is a capable beast, even for a game like Counter-Strike.

[-] DopamineDaydreams@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The same was said about the steam controller, but in the end it was still shit compared to a mouse. It's just not feasible in a game as competitive as csgo.

[-] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

It's not for everyone, but calling it shit just because it doesn't work easily for your liking is
a bit much since it's still usable to some. I beat plethora of shooters on gyro and it wasn't that much harder than playing on mouse once I got used to it.

[-] pec@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At its core, CS is a competitive shooter. Having casual maps and modes is fun but the game should not cater to this play mode. If valve tries to make it casual friendly they will disappoint the competitive players and will not be able to compete with other casual shooters.

Basically I don't want then to cater too much to the casual scene

[-] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

This isn't what's happening, though? What are you on about?

[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago

Valve caters more to the casual scene than most companies do by allowing custom servers and an in game custom server browser.

How much more casual can it get?

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Being on a console, on the couch.

[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

CSGO was made entirely for the purpose of being a console game, no body played it on console so they abandoned it

You are perfectly capable of setting on the couch at any time. The computer does not stop this. You are actively making the decision to not sit on a couch, as an adult you're allowed to do this.

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 3 points 1 year ago

Some games have controller-based matchmaking, where you hop in a lobby and only people with similar controllers to your get matched against you. So if you play with keyboard and mouse, you play against keyboard and mouse players. If you play with a controller, you play against other people with controllers. With crossplay getting more and more popular, I think every game should have this option.

[-] candle_lighter@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gyro aim is very good and can easily compete with a mouse

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Gyro is a nice improvement on joystick gaming, but it sure as hell isn't even remotely close to mouse aim

[-] OrekiWoof@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

My friend plays basically the same on gyro and on mouse, he's 3-4 ranks below global elite. Why do you think gyro is so much worse?

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I don't believe that at all

Small adjustments from rotating a controller will never be nearly as precise as moving a mouse.

Fast flicking wide turns is going to be far too slow even at the fastest joystick speed, which would screw up aiming in other ways as well

Strafing would be very limited even if you somehow overcame all those issues and were magically a human robot. Your controller can only rotate so much to track the player over a distance.

Joystick movement is simply never as precise as mouse, including with gyro that has a separate slow speed to try and be accurate as possible. Which doing that then means you can't strafe or quick turn.

Mouse can do it all with significantly less effort, and with a much higher skill ceiling. Which that is what matters if you're in competitive play. If you're not trying to be competitive, then fuck it, use whatever is fun.

[-] sockman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Not in a game like counter strike with flicking and very precise spray patterns.

[-] candle_lighter@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Both of those things are easily done with Gyro. You should try it out :D

[-] sockman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Of course, I don't doubt that. But someone with say 500 hours in csgo playing with keyboard mouse will absolutely destroy someone with 500 hours playing with sticks/gyro. But honestly I can't think of a single streamer or pro that doesn't use keyboard mouse

this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2023
205 points (92.2% liked)

Games

16718 readers
440 users here now

Video game news oriented community. No NanoUFO is not a bot :)

Posts.

  1. News oriented content (general reviews, previews or retrospectives allowed).
  2. Broad discussion posts (preferably not only about a specific game).
  3. No humor/memes etc..
  4. No affiliate links
  5. No advertising.
  6. No clickbait, editorialized, sensational titles. State the game in question in the title. No all caps.
  7. No self promotion.
  8. No duplicate posts, newer post will be deleted unless there is more discussion in one of the posts.
  9. No politics.

Comments.

  1. No personal attacks.
  2. Obey instance rules.
  3. No low effort comments(one or two words, emoji etc..)
  4. Please use spoiler tags for spoilers.

My goal is just to have a community where people can go and see what new game news is out for the day and comment on it.

Other communities:

Beehaw.org gaming

Lemmy.ml gaming

lemmy.ca pcgaming

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS