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Uber, Grubhub and DoorDash must pay NYC delivery workers an $18 minimum wage
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Don't worry the drivers will just refuse to pick up your order. Basically the way it works given the companies show the tip to drivers. Especially door dash. Which create an extremely toxic problem where drivers can decide what they think is worth their time or pick something up and fuck with someone's food cuz they didn't get "tipped"
Capitalism at its finest
In this specific case, I'd unironically agree, though it's more the free market than something that would be specific to capitalism. Users put out offers of "pick up this food for me and I will pay you x", and drivers have the option of taking or leaving any of the offers. If none of them think your order is worth their time, I don't think forcing any of them to do it anyways is the right thing to do.
Business should be voluntary on both sides IMO.
In an ideal world perhaps one managed by a federated system sure. But the companies they work for take part of their profit should they not be obligated to then treat these people as employees?
Lmao L take. I seriously have to bid on a delivery service? What if I have a cash tip? Which is better cause it don't technically need to be taxed for them. I am happy to render a tip after service is delivered. But the thought of bidding for something is ridiculous. And it already creates an extremely toxic environment and makes it even more toxic.
Well you can always vote with your wallet and not use those services, choose restaurants with their own delivery services
That's an auction. I need to keep bidding to get my order
It's not a tip, it's a bribe. A tip is given after service has been rendered.
Postmates would only ask for a tip after the delivery was completed. But now they don't exist anymore so...
Okay, Mr. Pink.
If you are too lazy to pickup your own food and need someone to deliver it to you, then yeah it is your job to pay those people. You expect someone to want to bring you food for free?
No, I think he expects their employer to pay them through the fees they collect. If the tip is mandatory, it's not a tip, it's a fee and it should be included in the up front costs with payroll taxes etc deducted.
It's a bribe, not a fee.
Instead of a bribe, I call it a Bid. I'll give a tip for good service, somebody waiting around an extra 10 minutes at the restaurant because they're giving us BOTH the runaround? Absolutely, have an extra bit of cash, you didn't have to do that for me and I want to compensate that extra effort so they're more likely to go that extra mile in the future without fear of it hurting potential profits they would have made by dropping me and picking up another order.
Invalids and disabled people use these services too. The problem isn't they expect it for free, the problem is the people who do the work are not being paid a living wage to do it.
A tip is merely subsidizing a company's inability to pay its employees appropriately. I really could care less seeing Stanley Tang (door dash founder/ owner) gamble (and lose) hundreds of thousands of dollars on hustler casino live playing poker while simultaneously claiming his company can't pay a living wage.
Go back and reread what they said but slower this time.
Bold of you to assume they can read.
You aren’t a smart person, hey?
Pretty sure they get paid regardless of if they're tipped.
Yeah but if they decide it's not worth their while without the tip...
Then your food just sits there? Nobody takes it?
The app just tells you "sorry, nobody is taking your order, try again maybe?"