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United States Army Oath of Enlistment
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God"
This is the oath of enlistment, not the oath commissioned officers take. Officers only swear to uphold the Constitution.
United States Army Oath of Commissioned Officers
"I ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God"
Only difference is no promise to follow the presidents orders.
They may not swear an oath to him, but they do swear to follow his orders.
You missed that part. If the POTUS orders them to do something against regulations (and against the constitution) then they have a duty to refuse those orders.
They really hammered this home in basic. I remember being really suprised by it, having thought as an airman basic I had to do anything I was ordered without question.
Now, the truth is, for your everyday enlisted person, the chances of being given an actually illegal order is basically 0.
Still, it was nice to know that there are mechanisms is place to protect me if I was told to do something truly horrible.
Yeah, watching Nazis get prosecuted after World War 2 was a good wake-up call. The armed forces realized that “I was just following orders” wasn’t a viable defense, and they really started pushing the fact that service members had a duty to refuse obviously illegal orders.
Does no one remember Captain John Sheridan?
Do not follow illegal orders.
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There’s are YOUR sons, YOUR daughters! And they have come home.
I think about the overall "President Clark" scenario a lot more these days, after the last former president.
That is true. The President also swears to uphold and defend the constitution. Ordinarily that isn't a problem.
Sadly in Milleys case it was a problem and he was left in a a largly untenable position.
You say that like they swear specifically to obey Trump’s orders. Not their fault who was voted into office.
Not in the oath for Officers.