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Milley says the military doesn’t swear oath to a ‘wannabe dictator’ in apparent swipe at Trump (www.cnn.com)

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In an impassioned and at times furious speech, departing Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley defiantly proclaimed that the US military does not swear an oath to a “wannabe dictator.”

It was a bitter and pointed swipe that appeared unmistakably targeted at former President Donald Trump, who has in recent days accused Milley of “treason” and suggested that he should be put to death for his conduct surrounding Trump’s bid in 2021 to remain in office despite losing the presidential election.

“We are unique among the world’s militaries,” Milley said. “We don’t take an oath to a country, we don’t take an oath to a tribe, we don’t take an oath to a religion. We don’t take an oath to a king, or a queen, or a tyrant or a dictator.”

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net -2 points 1 year ago

and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me

They may not swear an oath to him, but they do swear to follow his orders.

[-] just_change_it@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Does no one remember Captain John Sheridan?

Do not follow illegal orders.

[-] TheTurducken@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

❤️

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There’s are YOUR sons, YOUR daughters! And they have come home.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I think about the overall "President Clark" scenario a lot more these days, after the last former president.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

…according to regulations and the UCMJ

You missed that part. If the POTUS orders them to do something against regulations (and against the constitution) then they have a duty to refuse those orders.

[-] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They really hammered this home in basic. I remember being really suprised by it, having thought as an airman basic I had to do anything I was ordered without question.

Now, the truth is, for your everyday enlisted person, the chances of being given an actually illegal order is basically 0.

Still, it was nice to know that there are mechanisms is place to protect me if I was told to do something truly horrible.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, watching Nazis get prosecuted after World War 2 was a good wake-up call. The armed forces realized that “I was just following orders” wasn’t a viable defense, and they really started pushing the fact that service members had a duty to refuse obviously illegal orders.

[-] fuzz00713@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

That is true. The President also swears to uphold and defend the constitution. Ordinarily that isn't a problem.
Sadly in Milleys case it was a problem and he was left in a a largly untenable position.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

You say that like they swear specifically to obey Trump’s orders. Not their fault who was voted into office.

[-] auraness@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not in the oath for Officers.

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