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B-but both sides
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone call Ukraine just as bad as Russia
I'm guessing you've never heard of Hexbear?
i lurk there sometimes
That is 100% what they want. Nobody is immune to propaganda and they know that, if they can get people to start looking there - even out of hatred - they can recruit into their echo chamber. That’s their goal.
is implying russians are still socialist soviets, and claiming the opposite side said things they havent not propaganda too? ive been watching this kind of thing for a while now.
ive been proto right wing before looking closer into politics and I held a similar opinion without realizing there isnt such a thing as a neutral news and spaces when it comes to this and the ones claiming to be neutral are lying even harder.
much better to understand the biases and motivations behind what you see on the political spectrum and form your own opinions accordingly.
"They say the most heinous things, trust me, but also don't look there yourself because they'll mind control you into committing satanic rituals and eating babies. Believe me!"
Sorry, my intention was not to say don’t look there, my goal was to warn that nobody is immune to propaganda and to be careful if you do look there. It’s very much a trap and it seems that you may have fallen into it, I’m sorry. I hope you find the help you need to get out.
I don't even go to hexbear except when people like you shit your pants over it, just to see if anything has changed since the last time you people have shat your pants over it. Each time I go, I don't see the horrors you claim are there. Hopefully you fools can get over your mass delusion someday.
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Nope
Consider yourself lucky.
Go check out the Hexbear and Lemmygrad instances, then.
Welcome to ‘Murica.
I’ve seen GOP idiots in my local news comments try to somehow convince others that Ukraine is stealing money from “us” that could be used to rebuild after our fires, etc, and that they deserve whatever they get.
People are fucking morons.
Oh the reason I stated there definitely, absolutely isn’t nearly as bad as others, not even in the same neighborhood, but it’s probably the most stupid reason I’ve seen because ‘Murica has to represent. Apparently any reason you can make up is good enough to equate Ukraine and Russia. It’s hard to believe they’re not on the payroll.
It's incredible watching them suddenly become doves. Like it's in America's best interest to see peace in Ukraine, and Ukraine is the one that needs to roll over to make that happen. Somehow, Russia leaving is never mentioned.
Ukraine is a very flawed country. It has a real problem with corruption, nationalism and treatment of minority language groups (not just Russians). Still a better country than Russia, and trying to move towards a liberal democracy which is also at least better. But people tend to ignore thier faults completely.
You can't have been on lemmy for long then. Because tankies thinks Ukraine is bad and Russia is good, which is even worse (although both opinions stesms from the same Russian propaganda).
I have, unfortunately. People talking about "Donbass genocide" and the like, asserting Russia is anti-imperialist, eagerly gobbling up Russian propaganda like it was their last meal.
You haven't, but people here will swear up and down that they've seen it because they saw a post that didn't scream SLAVA UKRAINI or whatever. It's kinda like the OP image where they create a strawman and pretend that's what the reality is.
Funny how your nonsense is proven as such by comments in this very thread saying what you claim doesn't exist.
At most I have seen nato skepticism or antiwar sentiment accused of being supportive of Russia or demonizing Ukraine, but the equivalence of Ukraine and Russia are both equally bad actors isn't really a thing.
You sure about that
Yeah. There's always internet comments that can be screenshotted over two years. I mean that really goes to show it is not a popular or prominent position that is held. It's not a serious position.
Getting on with it though: it more importantly isn't a position held or expressed by anyone in positions of power or policy over the war as far as I know. At least not that aligns with the meme or the general idea that Ukraine is somehow just as bad as Russia.
The pro Russia crowd supports Russia so even their stance don't fall under this category of thinking Ukraine and Russia are indistinguishable bad.