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A more conservative community without the hate
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So, I’m goin to assume you’re talking about the comments on the thing with soccer? I still stand with it. If that’s not it, uncertain what you’re pointing to. If it sexism to say “we do not know everything as viewer”, well yeah. We got different mindset to that.
Looking at abusiveness communities, such as? I just meant that, most places are filled with hateful stuff and I’m unable to find one that’s not like that.
I commented on someone else which might explain why, I’m more leaning to the right ( at least I think that’s explain it, if not let me know).
It wasn't that you didn't believe her, its your complete dismissal of everyone who disagreed with you as "making it personal". You behave like a stereotypical conservative. You act as though you're the only person who can see it clearly and objectively, when it's pretty obvious from the outside that you can only imagine the situation from his perspective.
I'm referring to all conservative communities as abusive. You can't find one that isn't hateful because that's what conservatives are.
If you wanted to lay out some of your beliefs I could tell you generally where you would align stateside, but you seem to not want to actually discuss what you believe.
It is sexism to make it out to be a "he said she said" situation when a man says it was okay for him to kiss a woman and she says it was something she did not want. You disregard her personal autonomy when you say that him claiming she wanted it is as valid as her stating she did not.
If I hit you in the face with my fist claiming you wanted it, should I get off the hook since as you deem "no one can tell whether you wanted me to do it or not"?
For anyone wondering the "soccer incident" refers to his bad take on Luis Rubiales kissing Jenni Hermoso without permission.
EDIT: Fix a typo
Well honestly, you know my stance on it and now I know yours. However, I do not want to reopen that discussion on here, this thread was meant for something else.
If you do however for some reason want to continue, do so on that certain thread.
And yeah, for* anyone wondering. Just scroll thru my comment history, you’ll get there.
Damn. Savage...
Please don't play such behaviors off as if they're exclusively exhibited by conservatives. There's plenty of said behavior by those identifying as progressives as well.
Everyone is responsible for their own actions and behaviors. Cancelation happens both ways. Its occurrence or lack thereof can be influenced but ultimately not controlled by the subject person.
I'm glad we agree that win/win situations exist, that life isn't a zero-sum game as George Carlin (tongue-in-cheek, I hope) suggests in "Free-Floating Hostility."
Yeah, you don't want to talk about the things your obviously wrong about, we know. You o ly want to hear happy voices telling you you're right.
But you you aren't
I don't need to wonder. I hear "I'm a conservative" and I already know you're a waste of oxygen and carbon. Literally rocks from the ground are more useful and productive to society at large.
This sort of black-and-white thinking is what I hate the most about internet politics.
Thats weird, participants like you are what I hate the most about them
Such a wonderful message, I very well thank you for your kind words. Kind stranger! Couldn’t help but respond to you because you wasted your energy on this very stranger!
Nonetheless, I did not expect anything else when making this thread. I already expected to have some upset strangers. Which is okay! Kind of got the grasp of what I asked anyway.
Still hope you have a good day though.
Not going to agree with the commenter above, but I want to point out that this happens a lot:
A person who holds views that are detrimental to others comes to a community of those people and cries "why, when I am not quite like other people who hold these views, but agree with them on the detrimental stuff about you, do you not accept me?"
The people in the community try repeatedly to explain why holding views that harm others is harmful and that the person asking may need to revaluate their own views.
The person then says they're being attacked. Everything they predicted about this community is coming true! They feel like they're being kicked out!
And they are! Because when they came to engage then didn't change, let alone evaluate, any of their own views, the community rightly showed them back to the door until they are ready to actually listen and put themselves in someone else's shoes.
I am sure you feel like you have been badly treated at this point. What you do with that now is up to you. I'll say this: I have no hate for you, I would like nothing more than to give you some feedback that might help change how you view some things. I hope there is enough food for thought here for everyone.
Well put, friend!
Thank you for your respectful explanation.
I must point out, however, that those in the community the dissenter joins don't necessarily change their views, either. If we're going to hand out blame, then it's a double-edged sword.
I think their point is, the communities you're looking for sound like they're already here.
Oh look, a conservative that doesn't belive in consent.
What a surprise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B10XKWAFFcE
Oh look, a wokeist who thinks consent can be withdrawn retroactively.
What a surprise.
How fucking pathetic are you, did you just call him a "wokeist"? Is English not your native language?
English is indeed not my native language, but I don't think there's a standard term for people subscribing to the “woke” ideology.
Empathic?
Decent?
Not a piece of shit?
There's plenty to choose from.
Youre right, there isnt . There is a standard term for people who are against it though, we call them trash.
What is there to disagree with? Women talking about assault and harassment? Yes, let's go back to the good old days when we all pretended rape was fine or didn't happen...
I honestly do not care about upvotes, downvotes and such. On Lemmy, it means nothing. If it ever does, I will treat it like Reddit. Only go to places that I enjoy, never discuss certain topics.
If people insult or are hateful, I will just ignore them. No point in discussion with such people.