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[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

The Forefathers didn't come close to living up to their own words. We are still striving to meet them hundreds of years later. It's a good goal.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

Equally however a lot of that stipulations make no sense.

For example the gun laws were developed back when firing a shot required about a 45-minute reload session. I somehow doubt that automatic rifles were predicted and considered.

I highly suspect they thought that the American people would be intelligent enough to make their own constitution when the current one became invalid, sadly not.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just as the founding fathers intended

Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The "well regulated" portion seems to enjoy being ignored still.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

"well-regulated" does not mean what you think it means.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Of course... it means whatever someone needs it to mean.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago
[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Of course it is. 14th amendment has been twisted to meet one's needs as well.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

If you want to live in alternate facts land, Fox News is over there - - - - - - - - - - - >

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's my point exactly. Conservatives have manipulated the constitution to match their needs. Have they not?

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Everyone attempts that. We need to stop letting them get away with it, not do away with the concept of the Constitution.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not sure where I said the constitution should be ignored. Quite the opposite. It should be followed but hasn't been followed since the beginning with the forefathers. I said it's a "good goal". I guess we are both arguing the same point on the same side.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Probably. I was addressing the general conversations in this thread more than you specifically.

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