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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Are you actually claiming Israel has no culpability when it comes to the suffering of the people of Gaza?

[-] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, and when you do that, no journalists will chase you to scream, "BUT DO YOU CONDEMN ISRAEL?"

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

No, not no culpability, but understandable reasons for what they've had to do for their own safety over the years.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

One would think not escalating situations might be better for their own safety...

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Seems to be the escalation was Hamas invasion of their country on Saturday from where I'm sitting.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Gaza is not Hamas and Hamas is not Gaza. Those children are innocent and they're nearly half the population, as the post says. When you put a huge number of innocent people under siege, and kill more of them than were killed on your side, you're escalating.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Like it or not, Hamas are the defacto leader of Gaza, voted for in 2006. You can make all sorts of arguments about what's happened after that, but if the people of Gaza have made no attempt to remove them from leadership since then this is the outcome.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

How many of those children voted for Hamas in 2006? Exactly how many?

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

How many children voted for various governments that lead their countries to war throughout history?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure how that justifies what is going on in Gaza. The claim was that Hamas and Gaza were interchangeable (thus justifying Israeli atrocities) because Gazans voted for Hamas in 2006. When almost half the population were, at best, toddlers in 2006.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Hamas are the defacto leader of Gaza, voted for in 2006. You can make all sorts of arguments about what’s happened after that, but if the people of Gaza have made no attempt to remove them from leadership since then this is the outcome.

Sure, let's blame the civilian Palestinian deaths on the Israelis that voted this current gov't into power...

Oh wait, this isn't how it works

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

What? The Isrealis were moved out of Gaza before the 2006 elections.

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