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Nearly Half of EV Owners Would Switch Back to Combustion Engine Vehicles: Study
(www.energyportal.eu)
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I would not want to pay double for a new car to be able to do half the mileage and instead of just fueling up, having to find a fucking Walmart god knows where and sit in the parking lot for a half hour. Super inconvenient if you plan to do any long distance traveling
I agree. This study aside, I think EV is still really, incredibly shitty for working class people who can't afford it or for tenants who don't have plugs at home and need to sit at some WholeFoods or whatever like idiots to charge up.
And I agree about mileage. If I had to drive across country, where there may not even be any charging stations available, I would not do it in an EV.
I'm still torn on whether I should even get a hybrid. I hear those batteries are like ~$10k to replace and that's after paying more upfront.
I would get a hybrid if there was one for the vehicle type I get that did not impact its capabilities. I live in a condo so unless our board gets much more cool I won't be able to plug in. That being said I don't know anyone who has an electric vehicle that has given even the tiniest smidge about wanting to go back. Quite the opposite. Now I know a goodly amount of EV owners but most car owners I know still have gas. Although I may not be the best example since by necessity all my neighbors can't plug in as well.
I don't know about the US, but in the UK you can charge EVs via standard wall outlets. For a while I had the charger hanging out of a window from inside my home so I could charge it.
This made overnight charging very cheaply available.
I'm curious, not trying to convince you, whether that's an option in the US or something you'd be limited by due to your condo/board?
That's the thing. In some countries that works well... in others not so.
For example Germany has very low home ownership (especially in cities where it would be even easier with lower distances) and very low centralisation and the public loading infrastructure just isn't there (and will need to me massive compared to some other countries), while the US has the home ownership and better centralisation but is limited by their shitty 120V grid.
Smaller or better centralised countries with higher amount of home ownership in Europe on a 230V grid on the other hand work perfectly.
Looking at Tesla's support the US is crippled by the 120v power grid for wall charging, 3 Miles per hour on a standard 120v plug, and 23kmh on an Australian 240v 15A plug.
I know one person that had EV and went back to gas, but they're a tenant and had to do the whole drive and wait at a random parking lot for a long time which they didn't really like doing but also isn't safe for them as a woman. So far the only friend of mine who had an EV actually.
Their lease ended and they said fuck it.
I still might get a hybrid because gas is so expensive. We're fucked regardless, I guess.
Yeah I don't know anyone who has an ev who travels so far they have to wait like that. Granted im in a major metro area so like many employers have stations. So folks charge at night and then also charge while they are working. I think that shows how few ev owners their are though as there are like only a few charging spots at work.
The class aspect is definitely something that pisses me off about it as well. EVs seem to be debatable when it comes to them being more environmentally friendly after all, but it seems like anything that is or appears to be better, ethical consumption choices are reserved for people with money (But also there's no ethical consumption under capitalism obvs).
I'm fortunate enough to have been able to purchase a new hybrid rav, it was so worth it but I did also go from a 97 Mazda with peeling paint that can't climb mountain passes and does like 17 miles per gallon lol.
If you don't already have a driving pattern that made having an EV convenient, you're not going to consider getting one in the first place.