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‘We claim her, end of story’: Buffy Sainte-Marie’s Piapot family hurt by allegations (globalnews.ca)
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Indigenous icon Buffy Sainte-Marie's identity was brought into question by a CBC investigation, her Piapot family says the accusations are "ignorant, colonial -- and racist."

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[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why does there need to be a single Canada-wide definition? We're not talking about "who gets a government-issued status card" here—people can be unambiguously Indigenous and still not have one of those. We're talking about who can stand up in a public venue and say "I'm Indigenous" without causing a scandal, and who gets to decide that.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We’re talking about who can stand up in a public venue and say “I’m Indigenous” without causing a scandal, and who gets to decide that.

What’s to stop someone from doing that

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fact that no single individual can control the "scandal" part.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I mean, what’s to stop anyone from claiming ancestry

How can people in Iqaluit monitor those claiming their status in Ontario?

It’s unfair and unreasonable to leave it up to the tribes

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They don't have to monitor it. They only have to respond to inquiries about people's tribal membership, not proactively anticipate them.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why is there an inquiry in that scenario?

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay, now you're just being silly. My cat could figure that one out, especially with an example right in front of him.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are being ridiculous if you think most scenarios of people claiming to belong to a tribe far enough away that they aren’t going to run into a member is going to result in an inquiry

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The point is that the claim doesn't matter unless someone cares enough about it to make an inquiry (that is, cares just a tiny amount), or it affects legal matters like status cards (in which case, someone will care enough to enquire). If there's no harm being done, then no enforcement needs to be done either. Which is also so very basic that my cat could figure it out.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just don’t have the status to begin with if anyone can claim it because you think it does no harm

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's like saying you can avoid tripping over a rock if you just will it out of existence. Reality doesn't work that way. And I don't think you really believe it does either. Kindly go troll somewhere else.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago

So you see why the obvious answer is the government