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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

The Israeli soldier is enacting violence on behalf of the Israeli state. Hamas is doing the same on behalf of the Palestinian state. Is there a pattern of such behavior from Israeli soldiers? Are there appropriate consequences applied in such cases? The answers are yes, and no, respectively. This isn't just "rogue soldiers", it is a matter of policy.

If Hamas is a "terrorist" organization, then so is the Israeli government. Neither cares to distinguish between combatants and noncombatants. On balance, my sympathy lies with the Palestinian people, relegated to shrinking ghettoes, while a colonial force imports settlers from all over the globe to illegally occupy their homes and farms.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

Hamas is also a "state" in that they are a democratically elected political organization that has a monopoly on violence in Gaza. That's the definition of a "state."

However they also engage in terrorism. Kind of a two-fer.

Israel, otoh does not technically engage in terrorism. Instead, their violence against civilians only acts to further the goals and status quo of Hamas. Terrorism by definition is a political act of violence to effect change.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

I fail to see how Hamas is a terrorist organization, and the Israeli government isn't. The difference to me seems purely down to PR.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Did you hear the part where he said Hamas has a monopoly on violence in Gaza lmfao

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Jesus Christ I actually glossed over that part somehow.

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