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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Really, it's difficult to think of any other US politician that has been constantly dragged through the mud for nearly as long as Hillary Clinton. 30+ years of non-stop propaganda... And she still almost beat Trump.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

And she still almost beat Trump.

That's a weird thing to brag about considering she helped him win the primary because her team thought he was the easiest R to beat...

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-2016-donald-trump-214428/

She's just always been out of touch with the American voter, and either she had no idea what she was doing, or knew the risk and gambled with the country for personal gain.

Shit like that is why people don't like her. She cares more about personal power than the country.

[-] BB69@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

What personal gain and power? Sounds like you’ve been drinking that right wing kool aid about Hillary being the literal devil

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

What personal gain and power?

Going down in history forever as the first female US president... Like, you do realize president of the US is a big deal right?

And there's nothing that makes moderate Dems sound more like trumpets than claiming any criticism is "fake news propaganda".

Like, if you can't objectively look at Hilary Clinton and understand some people have valid reasons not to like her....

[-] BB69@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago

… So being the right person for a job is a bad thing simply because you’d be the first? Come on.

You haven’t even laid out any valid criticism.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Mate, the first qualification for elected office is getting people to vote for you...

Hillary was so scared of Jeb Bush (a terrible candidate in his own right) that her campaign pumped up lunatics like trump and Ben Carson because they thought she had a chance at beating them.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-2016-donald-trump-214428/

She succeeded at getting trump into the general, but then couldn't even beat him.

So how is she "the right person for the job" when the only chance she had to be president was helping a fucking lunatic make it to the general against her... And then losing to that lunatic

America would have been better off if Hillary had stayed home and we had either Bernie or Jeb Bush as president from 2016-2020 rather than trump.

I don't know why you disagree

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What "personal power"?

This woman is literally no longer a person in your eyes. You people have invented this super-villain that just doesn't exist. Come back to reality.

Edit: I'm not even a fan of Hillary Clinton, I've just observed this happen in front of my eyes for decades and it's wild.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

What “personal power”?

I really thought it was obvious, but you're the second to ask...

Being President of the United States of America...

I guess I overestimated people on a politics sub, but I really didn't think I needed elaborate that being a world leader also makes someone personally powerful...

Or that being the first woman to hold that office would make someone remembered for the future of our country. Kids would be learning her name 200 years from now assuming the country still exists. Now at best she'll be a footnote for a decade, likely only mentioned as the person who lost to trump.

I'd feel bad if she also wasn't the main reason Trump was even in the general to begin with

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago

You realize she lost, and will never hold public office again, right?

I'm talking about currently. People acting like she's some kind of puppet master behind the scenes pulling the strings.

this post was submitted on 28 Nov 2023
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