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You're kidding right? Pardons in themselves are crazy, but didn't know presidents can pardon themselves?
Turns out most of the US government relied on norms, traditions, and basic human decency, but very little of it was actually codified into law. Which in this day and age is like having no rules at all since no one has any shame anymore
Thank God for Trump, unironically. Stress-testing helps highlight problems.
Just like when the Weimar Republic was stress tested.
We seem to be reacting similarly too. As if nothing is happening.
Except that nobody is actually stopping tiny hands the wanna be Hitler.
Weve never had to worry about it before, there's no precedent
Which is the problem she's trying to address. It's become very obvious that precedent is no longer good enough when you have unethical, immoral, shady people in charge.
This is going to be the subtitle for whoever writes the book about Trump in a few years.
The precedent is jo bidon /s
I found your joke funny.
thx obamo
The rules around pardons are incredibly vague. Presidents have typically treated them vary seriously and used them sparingly. Then Trump saw it as an opportunity to make some cash and do favors for his cronies who committed crimes to help him.
The legal consensus is that they can't, but it's never been tested --nor did anyone ever seriously conceive of it as a possibility-- so it's theoretically possible as a matter of law.
Only works on Federal crimes the state and local ones that he committed will still stick. So that Georgia election will not be going away
That's not really been tested.
You seriously haven't heard any discussion about a president potentially pardoning himself? Where have you been the last 6 years
As a non-american, living in an other continent, this is indeed news to me. It's honestly the first time I hear about this being annactual possibility. I'm fact, its a couple of days ago that I found out, (through Lemmy) that there is no limit to how many pardons a president can issue! I thought it was only a few!
Word around town is Trump was selling pardons for $2M each. If you look at some of the pardons he granted on his way out, it seems quite possible.