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Always remember, both sides are just as bad!
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I'm not a conservative, but screaming THEY WANT FUCKING LITERALLY SLAVERY BACK is just asinine. Criticize the actual things they say rather than a hyperbolic strawman.
Yeah, sorry, right now it's just "They want more Black people locked up in a system that allows them to be used as slaves, and they want to teach that old-fashioned slavery was actually good for Black people"
My bad. /s
Yes, that's exactly my point. Say that instead, because that's more specific and it's less hyperbolic strawman.
Is it that hard to grasp that you people feel the need to treat it like a joke?
"They don't want literal slavery back, they just want a system of forced labor for ethnic minorities which is used to make a few private individuals incredibly wealthy while keeping the laborers in subhuman conditions under the absolute control of their overseers."
I treat it as a joke because it is a joke. It would be like arguing that a party that ran on expanding debt slavery isn't literal slavery because you can't trade debt slaves.
When you treat it as a joke, you're not treating it like a real thing that's happening
Go ahead and continue to laugh and that's how Republicans get elected. You boil real problems down into hyperbolic strawman and you will never get across to the side that is told by their media and their politicians that we scream theyre actual fucking nazis.
Instead talk about how the modern prison system is a form of indentured servitude akin to slavery that predominantly impacts minorities. Can you reasonably equate it to actual slavery? Yeah that's a comparison, but to just go around to say ACTUAL FUCKSLAVERY THEY HATE BLACKS SO MUCH THAT THEY WANT TO OWN THEM AGAIN is just fucking stupid.
Yes, definitely, the cause of Republicans being elected is that people call out modern-day slavery as modern-day slavery. You got it. Really nailed it.
I'm sorry, should I have been saying they weren't Nazis when they began stuffing undesirables into concentration camps and forcibly sterilizing them? Or encouraging violence against minorities and their political opponents?
When do they cross the Nazi line? Do I have to be marching under the 'Arbeit Macht Frei' sign before I get the right to call them Nazis?
Fucking dumbass.
And you're apart of the problem. You feel so strongly about your own opinions that even me having an opinion on how to approach things is too much for you, and the only contribution you have is to screech like a child on the internet, acting like having strong opinions is meaningful in its own way.
I'm just rolling my eyes at how childish you've made yourself out to be here.
Also, so every single conservative is an actual literal KKK nazi? Is that really how you see the world? All conservatives hate black people?
When you are complacent and actively support a party that pushes these ideologies, then yes you are no different.
Okay but still, what exactly does the right want in your eyes and what exactly does the other side want
That's entirely pointless and you're just trying to find out if you need to hate me or not. There is literally no benefit to the discussion by bringing that in, just to make it easier for if you need to automatically decide to disregard my opinions.
The people on the right are being lied to and manipulated by their media and their politicians, I find that actually talking to them on an individual level you'll find that they're not all fascist or racist (my first cousins are half black, but my grandmother is a conservative and very much not a racist. I have gay family members and she doesnt scream about persecution) You should take a gander at Fox News and see what they say about us on the left, and youll see my point. They say all kinds of hyperbolic shit that's sometimes technically correct.
My point is that if you act like Fox News does, it's adding to the division (which is fox news goal, division makes them money)
To continue to have discourse in this manner is only going to make things worse. We need to figure out how to approach the issues before we continue this shit slinging
How are you going to comment something so vague and "both sides" the argument but won't even present your actual point.
I did present my actual point, I said "my point" fucking literally. Ffs
No you haven't. There's nothing in this post that is similar to FOX. Where's the lie in the post?
Okay buddy, you just want to argue for the sake of arguing so I'm going to disengage from you after this.
So because you disagree with me you're saying I didn't give a point?
Absolute non sequitur and that really explains your overall thought process pretty well. You aren't even reading my comments at this point apparently.