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What the fuck? The headline sounds strange, but the article is so absurd I would find it a bit over the top if it was a movie.
WTF is going on in those prisons?
The Chinese prisons get away with it so now ours are trying a bit of organ harvesting. Not like they need them anymore anyway right?
There's zero chance this guy's heart was transplanted. Heart donations require minimal warm ischemic time. No way they found him dead and decided to steal his heart, and if they forcibly removed his heart for transplant, the surgical signs would make that obvious.
China gets away with it because it's a state sanctioned program. The evidence is destroyed and families get back ashes.
It's far more likely they did an autopsy and then lost or kept the heart for some other reason. Maybe he was stabbed in the heart and they want to cover it up. If I had to guess, I'd say they were just grossly negligent and lost it. They returned the body in a state of decomposition. That's egregious enough without imagining a shady cabal of prison heart transplant doctors.
Maybe if you would actually read the article
Does that mean that's what actually happened or is that just what the family is accusing them of in the suit
Well, I suspect they have some evidence if they are naming the institution in the lawsuit.
Still not a transplanted organ. That would fall under the "kept it for someother reason" category I mentioned.
No but the market for body parts to be used for research or education is bery underregulated in the US. They could be selling organs just not for transplants. John Oliver just did an episode on it actually.
Not condoning this by any means, but everyone ought to be an organ donor. I find the people who refuse on the grounds of "I don't like the idea of my organs being harvested.." are demonstrating insufferable selfishness. Multiple lives can be saved from one donor. And you'll be dead anyway! You won't care then...
Especially all bikers should be mandatory organ donors.
Fully agree and am an organ donee since I won’t be needing them anyhow. I know your agreed with me but I’ll say it again for others who might be confused.
The issue is consent here, I know a lot of people don’t understand that word but the issue is he nor his family said they could have the heart, but the heart was taken anyway.
And I bet someone made money from it, too. It wasn't just to save someone's life.
I specifically said I wasn't justifying what happened here. My point was just an aside on the importance of organ donation.
I don't condone stealing people's organs. What happened here was clearly fucked up.
Eh, respecting peoples' bodily autonomy isn't that difficult. Not doing so causes way more problems in the world so far as I see it.
That article needs to compare those statistics with other types of events. I suspect it may just be from an increase in population during events.
That’s funny I consider another person who feels entitled to my organs to be insufferably selfish.
Are you directing this at me? If so, a swing and a miss.
I do not feel entitled to your organs. I feel that people ought to donate them, and that those who do not donate are inherently selfish.
Big difference. Be a decent human being and share your organs when you die, so that others can live. Let's use analogy so you can see how inherently selfish this is.
Suppose you have eaten until you're full and decide you don't want the rest. Since you have no more use for the food, you will throw it away in your garbage can at home.
But then you come across 3 or 4 other people who are starving to death, and your food makes the difference between life and death for them.
Do you feel morally compelled to stop and share this food, which has no more use for you? Do you feel like a piece of shit imaging driving past them to throw the food away in your garbage can?
Anything they want.
The law isn't the bunch of nice guys they convince you of with their controlled conditions.
A bunch of good ol boys trying their darndest to re-live the "good old days" of slavery.
Sounds to me like they are modern day resurrectionists for the local med school. I really hope the FDA takes a closer look at the med school's procurement and documentation of human specimens.
I'd say every for-profit prison should be put under a microscope to find all the shit they do.
But that will never happen 'cause it would force the states/feds to revamp everything.