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Don't know either of them, but have to doubt her unwillingness based on the fact that any reasonable person I know would never sign or do that if they weren't into it.
Fear and power do a lot, and there is a whole legal section about how contracts signed under duress against the person's interests are not legally binding.
Like you, this is the first I've heard of this so I don't have any opinions at this time.
Some people get off on being abused by those with more power than them.
I think they call it a 'kink.' I don't think we should shame them for it.
Also something about this guy being a millionaire probably made him very attractive.
Let's see how much money she can get out of him before we pass any judgement, though.
Straight to slut shaming, cool. Great contribution. You’re trying to appear “neutral” but your true colors fly bright and clear through your words.
What are you talking about?
Your first sentence in your previous comment:
It reads as if your initial response to this happening was to say "she wanted it", which is pretty terrible.
And what about my second and third sentences? Did you just ignore those?
You're the only one who's shaming them.
Your second sentence clearly kink shamed, even if you wrote that you didn't.
Your third sentence is just more of the same crap.
You are just either a troll or an idiot, and I have better things to do than to argue with either.
Okay, believe whatever you want. Me literally saying we shouldn't shame them I guess is me shaming them.
Have a nice day, I'm going to ignore you because I'm tired of your insults.
"we all know she enjoyed it till she didn't"
Fuck you
This is a vile take, and you should reexamine your empathy
Calm down. What evidence is there? It's a he said she said. We don't know who is lying.
Unfortunately manipulation, coercion, grooming, etc do exist.
"This person can't have been abused because they signed a contract"
More specifically, "this person enjoys being abused as can clearly be seen by the fact that they engage in contractual BDSM, a well-known device that kinksters use to negotiate BDSM power exchange."
The only unethical thing here was hiring the person he was dating - this article is exactly why you don't do that.
Everything described her aside from their unethical relationship is a sign of a loving kink relationship - like being collared is generally considered a big relationship step in BDSM. This looks like stupidity biting him in the ass more than it looks like abuse.
So any time a contract is signed it's never coerced or forced in any way? Looks like you figured out abuse. Just make them sign a contract and you're scott free.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that everything described in the article is indicative of these two engaging consensually in the BDSM lifestyle. His mistake was getting his girlfriend a job as his secretary as that adds an ethical component they were not fulfilling.
To people outside of a BDSM relationship, these things can be shocking. I am extremely aware of that. However, anyone in the BDSM lifestyle can instantly recognize what happened here and what mistakes were made.
If you'd like more info on contracts, collaring, and the BDSM lifestyle, here is a good resource:
https://kinkyevents.co.uk/bdsm-contracts-a-beginners-guide/
https://www.serenityinchains.com/what-is-a-bdsm-collar-aka-bondage-collar-and-what-does-it-mean/
The fallout here is similar to a friend of mine being investigated by police after his wife had some serious bruising her coworkers noticed. Not all violence is unwelcome. They cleared it up in one conversation, because they were smart enough to not mix work and play, with all the ethical quandaries that involves.
Tell me you're a sex pest without saying it
Typical privileged attitude.
You seem to magically know he's lying and she's not... how, exactly?
You're disbelieving a victim for no reason. Fuck you, rapist apologizer.
Fuck you. My reason is there's no evidence.
Agreed.