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[-] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 9 points 11 months ago

Somehow personal failings never happened in communism? I am from a formerly communist nation. Capitalism has been a disaster.

Communism is bad for the people who want money. Capitalism is bad for everyone except the person who wants to hoard money.

[-] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If your country failed/is failing, it's hard to hang it on capitalism when, again, all top countries are liberal capitalists. It's more likely due to corruption/mismanagement than capitalism. And no matter how much it's failing, it's not failing at a soviet famine or great leap forward level is it?

Communism is bad for the people who want money. Capitalism is bad for everyone except the person who wants to hoard money.

this is just a cringe and childishly reductive statement that means nothing.

[-] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Is liberal capitalism how you describe centuries of colonial rule in Asia, Africa and the subsequent wealth drains?

Are you sure you're not misattributing their success to capitalism and ignoring the centuries of colonial wealth that flowed to the EU nations? Whenever I mention this in a EU space or those with westerners I get heavily downvoted. It looks like Europe doesn't want anyone to remember their Dark Ages through colonial periods.

Europeans just don't want that closet of skeletons to be opened.

[-] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Are you sure you’re not misattributing their success to capitalism and ignoring the centuries of colonial wealth that flowed to the EU nations?

Are you sure you're not ignoring all of the countries that are dominating out there that didn't participate in colonial shenanigans and were even victims of them? Are Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, New Zealand, Ireland, South Korea, Taiwan, etc... ex-colonialist powers currently benefiting from the past profits of exploiting others? Tankies like to pretend the West only prospers exclusively from colonialism yet conveniently forget that the communist shitholes they simp for participated in just as much or even worse colonialism than the West (see: Soviet Union). The truth is liberal capitalist democracies are just better. Yes, we should implement many socialist policies, and many of these countries do. But to pretend that communism is a better path is just braindead ignorant childish thinking.

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