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[-] spider@lemmy.nz 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We're stuck with only a small slice of Dems that even acknowledge our system is fucked.

Which explains why Bernie Sanders got sacked in their presidential primaries, twice.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That was vague, my bad.

I ~~might~~ meant a small slice of dem politicians.

Voters of the Dem party and independents largely support healthcare reform, and even a good amount of Republicans.

But the party keeps supporting incumbents who don't represent their voters.

Just a bunch of old politicians deciding it's best for all of them to stay in power because they know better than voters.

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That was vague, my bad.

I [meant] a small slice of dem politicians.

Oh, that was understood.

And what I meant was that the party itself orchestrated his sacking.

[-] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 1 points 10 months ago

No problem. I have made the comment about both sides suck and it doesn't matter before. It really feels that way all the time. I have said before : Republicans act like they care.

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -3 points 10 months ago

The winner of the Primary being supported by the Party is how it is supposed to work. And regardless of your purity and infallibility, there shall remain only two candidates with a viable chance. If fools whining doesn't damage Biden too much, the winner shall be he. But whine enough and you may suppress turn out enough to elect Fat Joffrey again.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

But whine enough and you may suppress turn out enough to elect Fat Joffrey again.

I could say the same about whiny Democratic partisans trying to pin the blame on leftists yet again despite continuing to offer fuck-all as incentives. "Fuck you, vote for us because you have no real choice" is hardly motivating, assholes!

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -2 points 10 months ago

Not a Dem. Just actually paid attention and don't want fools throwing us to the greater evil simply because they didn't get their way.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Anther fantasy about what was stated in an attempt to ignore it as you've no leg to stand upon.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The winner of the Primary being supported by the Party is how it is supposed to work

Agreed.

Unfortunately the party has that backwards, and a judge agreed with them.

The winner of the primary is whoever they want it to be. They can influence as much as they want, because at the end of a day it doesn't even matter who wins the primary. Legally a bunch of unelected donor connected people can name whoever they want.

But I don't think I want to get roped in a conversation with you based on your post history

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 2 points 10 months ago

Legally a bunch of unelected donor connected people can name whoever they want.

i.e., The Big Club (NSFW - language)

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -2 points 10 months ago

False. While they may wield undue influence, there is nothing remotely "rigged" about it.

My post history is one of treating folks as they treat me. I understand why you don't wish to have a conversation as you've not a leg to stand on, but the only person that could possibly rope you into one is you.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

My post history is one of treating folks as they treat me.

that's a lie

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

Fuck anyone who drags out the word "purity" in this conversation.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Ignore "whining" and just assume that Biden is a perfect being with no flaws, and you drive people away.

I will vote for Biden if I have to. That doesn't mean I have to accept him as a paragon of progressivism and support for the people. He is, at best a flawed man with flawed ideals. At median he's a symptom of stagnating politicians scared to lose power.

Refusing to acknowledge that and force him to better both himself and his party for the sake of the people just leads to more disillusionment and failure.

I will vote for him, but only because he's the only option I'm given. I will still push for him to support people and not a political narrative.

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago

Anther fantasy about what was stated in an attempt to ignore it as you've no leg to stand upon.

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