Ah yes, if companies made more money, they'd share more with the workers. That explains why corps have been making record profits and... Nothing has improved for workers.

At some point you just have to ask whether these people are disconnected from reality.

"b-but trans people..."

I feel like we should make up some shit about Muppets. and then get sound bites of GOPers being like "i like muppets... who doesn't like muppets' and then, you know, use that to smear them.

(sorry, muppets, your sacrifice is appreciated.)

You're absolutely in a progressive bubble. If everyone were progressives, Donald Trump would have been laughed out of the primaries. There are a lot of people who are brainwashed or spiteful or both.

I think it can be difficult to verify directly because the concept is more abstract than those implicated are accustomed to dealing with.

Consider the similar scenario where impoverished seniors vote to have the government be more fiscally responsible by cutting the very services their lives depend on. If they understood how they were fucking themselves, they'd probably stop. Should we really expect any sort of meaningful discussion here? It is a deeply fundamental problem whose solution would require much more openness and vulnerability than our society or collective consciousness is currently able to support.

It wasn't too long ago we were seeing a constant stream of folks expressing regret for their vocal opposition to the vaccines, sometimes even pleading to be vaccinated upon learning of their imminent demise. If they were better equipped to think through these issues, they'd be better equipped to participate in constructive discussion, and we wouldn't be talking about this problem.

You may be in a bubble, or maybe you're just a kind and trusting person who tends to give people the benefit of the doubt.

You're in a huge bubble. A large portion of boomers very strongly defend this shit. Other generations tend to see past it, some areas of more educated boomers see past it, but even among generally good people, Reagan etc brainwashed the majority of an entire generation into believing this shit and most of them have not let go.