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“Kenny just began to gasp for air repeatedly and the execution took about 25 minutes total.”

Pretty compassionate way to kill a person.

Once again, the Law in the south is brutal.

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[-] RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world 94 points 9 months ago

FTR I’m generally against the death penalty, so same, don’t give me grief. I’m of the opinion that if it’s gonna be done, don’t fuck it up.

Ok. So regarding the implementation it sounds like they fucked it up. As you said (and I previously implied) it sounds like they didn’t properly exclude oxygen/remove waste CO2. Kinda hard to believe they fucked up something so simple considering the ton of evidence on hypoxic accidents.

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 82 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Precisely. They apparently either felt it was fine to cut corners, do not fully understand how nitrogen hypoxia actually works, or a little bit of suffering was intentionally part of the process because it still is Alabama after all.....

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 51 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The big, really big issue, and I hate to say it. Is that, depending on the jurisdiction and laws in place, executions cannot be done by professionals. Most of the people who would know how to do it properly, medics, nurses, engineers, are ethically banned from participating or facilitating executions. Not that this stops them all from participating, and in some contexts some do, but on the general, executions on the USA are performed by completely incompetent individuals.

The more reason to just not fucking do them in the first place. How did they botched it using a mask when almost every single expert on medically assisted death recommends at least a sealed hood.

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Very good point.

[-] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The people with the most experience with nitrogen suffocation are scientists working with animals. It's the current best ethical euthanasia method.

[-] Talaraine@kbin.social 33 points 9 months ago

Was gonna say, in Alabama you could give them a step by step guide and they'd take shortcuts.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago

You're assuming they could read the steps in the first place. That guide better include pictures!

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

little bit of suffering was intentionally part of the process

Of course it was. They also didn't want to use nitrogen, as there is no awareness at all if done correctly. The drugs they use with lethal injection likely induce panic and pain because they do not induce unconsciousness before it.

Executions have never been intended to be humane. They are punishment, vindication for the wronged. A childish obsession with a horrible misunderstanding of justice.

[-] psud@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The exit bag uses nitrogen suffocation as a suicide method. It's a bag that encloses the person's head. If they felt a mask could have been used, they would have

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Hot take, they don't care because they are killing someone. The humanity part of it is completely removed. They care that they did the deed and it didn't work. It should have been immediate. Someone should be losing their job. An Internet search could have prevented this.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 6 points 9 months ago

Plus it's Alabama. The cruelty has always been the point for as long as they have been a state

Surely they ought to care simply because if they continue to fuck it up they will lose public support for executions?

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Well you and I would think that is obvious. I am not so sure what they are thinking.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I'm willing to bet my left testicle they thought in their lead-addled brain that it would work like a diver's mask. Pumping in gas pushes out the water, so it must also push out the air, I tell you hwat! I don't consider myself to be a very bright person, but even I know that water and air work differently.

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