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I have been a Star Trek fan since the early 1970s. I got to meet most of the original cast during the 1975 convention in Philadelphia https://fanlore.org/wiki/Schuster_Star_Trek_Conventions/1975_Philadelphia_Schuster_Star_Trek_Convention Where Nichelle Nichols kissed me twice on the cheek and said I was “cute”. I’ve never washed my cheek since. I got to meet James Doohan, and we talked about his missing finger. He was just standing around alone on the main floor, so I went up to him, scared, and started chatting. I still have much of the things from the show, including the program book, my badge, even the plastic bag. Anyway.
I hate ds9 and Voyager. Can’t watch even half an episode, what do you guys see in those?
For me it’s:
Nothing else.
Well, to start with we actually watched them.
DS9 is darker and more modern than others, so it's like a millenial Trek. Muddy politics, lots of warcrimes, lots of incompatible ideas, feeling of helplessness against even minor problems and it's generally closer to us than a dream of the future told by TNG or TOS. I find introduction of Odo and ferengi nationals being a big fat plus to the franchise because of their complicated characters. Unlike older series, main cast doesn't feel welcome here and they try to accomodate to things more foreign to them than they are used to. I can vouch for the quality of writing there, but I am to assume it's just not the thing everyone would want to find in Trek. In the end of the day, DS9 is just a constant depression of us having the same problems and pettiness even on the final frontier. That's why it has all chances to be disliked.
I enjoyed DS9 enough to at least start watching each episode, even if I didn't finish it.
My schedule made it impossible to watch Voyager and when I went back a few years ago, I didn't make it through the pilot episode. It was just awful.
Right now for me, it's just waiting for new seasons of Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks.
I watched TOS, animated TOS, and TNG completely but I can't really rewatch them anymore.
Still haven't tried Picard and stopped Disco after season 2. I stopped after S1 but then I heard about Strange New Worlds and went back for S2.
DS9 has 4 separate bisexual main cast members:
Bashir is canonically dating Garak but is also great with the ladies
Kira is in a thruple with Miles and Keiko, and also dates goo
Odo is gay for all the other goo on his planet but also has it bad for Kira
Dax is married to Worf but also had that romantic episode with her ex-wife
And that's not even counting Miles' homosexual repression towards Bashir.