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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just completely unrealistic. The time for this type of talk was a year ago. Two years ago. There isn't even time to get new names qualified for primaries now. This is who it is. We're going to vote for him.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But will Biden motivate enough people to get off the couch to vote?

[–] Lemming421@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If the threat of a fascist dictator who’s currently liable for half a billion dollars of damages from his defamation (of his rape victim) and his decades of real estate fraud (not to mention his homophobia, transphobia, sexism, ableism, xenophobia, insurrection and arguably straight up treason, Christ the list goes on) doesn’t get people voting then honestly, your vaunted republic deserves to fall.

Or you could vote for “literally none of that” Biden.

But hey, tricky choice, right?

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100 million voters don't vote. Most know all of that that you listed and they still won't take the time to vote. How else would you motivate them?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Prediction:

The number of non-voters will go UP in 2024 compared to 2020 due to not pressing as hard on vote by mail.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Prediction: people are also tired of Biden; and Trump has had 4 years to retcon his bullshit and get less-psychotic republicans inline with shit like “Jan 6 wasn’t an insurrection”

Biden is going to have an extremely tough fight on his hands.

People have been saying this for years, too. The DNC doesn’t care.

People can scream and howl at the moon all they want. I’ll be voting for Biden even if I resent him… won’t change that he’s loosing votes fast.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People SAY they aren't voting Biden now, but when it comes down to the election and Trump still hasn't faced a criminal charge and the only person blocking him from office is Biden? They'll vote.

All the Muslims in Michigan doing protest voting, you really think they want this guy back in office?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/trump-muslim-ban-gaza-refugees

Now, Biden will have to REMIND everyone what the alternative is, but the choice couldn't be clearer.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but Hillary was an idiot, insulting coal miners which lost her PA, "Son of Scranton" Biden won't do that.

She also blew off Michigan and Wisconsin, which I doubt Biden will do either.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See that attitude is why we will never get true change

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Attitude doesn't matter unless:

a) We get rid of the electoral college and, man, are we CLOSE...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

b) We get rid of first past the post elections and move to ranked choice voting.

https://ballotpedia.org/Ranked-choice_voting_(RCV)#Where_is_RCV_used

That is what will cause change.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man, I remember reading lists that were pretty much the same about why people would obviously vote for Clinton in 2016.

Don't remember how that went, can you remind me?

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's one key difference in those lists now, if you would like a hint: it's the straight-up treason.

No matter how divided on any other issue, that's the one that should unite us all.

[–] Haus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

You woulda thought that vaccination during a pandemic would have united us all. Or Earth is round. Or Putin is bad.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

It’s straight up supporting the massacre and ethnic cleansing of tens of thousands of people, as well as the destruction of hundreds of thousands of homes, tons of schools and hospitals, the BELGIAN office in Gaza, the mosques.

And Biden supports every bit of that, he says he doesn’t, but actions speak louder than words

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Remember "Obama's drone strokes" & how that was going to cost him he election?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[–] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So why does it matter who the Dems pull out of their asses to run against Trump? You could make the same argument for voting for literally any of them instead of Biden.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I maintain that in 2016, Hillary Clinton was probably the only candidate who could've lost to Trump. So who gets picked matters. This "Biden crime family" bullshit isn't sticking the way it did with Bill and Hillary.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, but the age thing certainly is sticking. An overwhelming majority of Americans ate concerned about his age.

Like, Taylor Swift only has 60% or so approval in America whereas I think it was some 70 or 80% of Americans are concerned about Biden's age/mental acuity.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

It's not a disadvantage against Trump, who is barely younger.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Not as long as he continues supporting Israel.

[–] crazyCat@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Incorrect, there is plenty of time. I highly recommend listening to Ezra Klein’s podcast about discussing he and why it can happen at the Democratic convention, and how it used to be normal.