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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 8 months ago

I imagine it's a similar situation to Ukraine, US got in over their head and now they don't have an exit strategy. If they just pull out now then they look really weak, and this is especially painful in an election year. On the other hand, they don't have a practical way to escalate. Putting boots on the ground would require declaring an actual war and getting congressional approval. So, I expect they're just going to keep doing what they're doing and try to portray it as some sort of a success.

Meanwhile, painting all resistance against US as Iran proxies seems to be neocons laying the ground for a war with Iran that they're salivating for.

[-] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 8 months ago

Lmao man they would actually look a lot better if they just admitted their mistakes and pulled out, if they think pulling out makes them look weak then how would continuing to stay and waste resources and not even be able to do anything about it make them look?

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 8 months ago

They wouldn't dare. Look at the absolute heyday they had when Russia fell-back to defensive positions after a couple of months into the Ukraine SMO. They made it sound like Russia was about to lose with their tail between their legs for months afterward, even though it was obviously clearly the best thing they could have done and allowed them to carry-on indefinitely instead of losing half their troops.

[-] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 8 months ago

My own mind changed a lot since the beginning of this conflict. It unveiled so many things for me.

In the beginning I though that Russia's intelligence had failed Putin. Seeing the dusty equipment on the trains, the western unity in Ukraine defense, and the sanctions, I really thought the decision making was off.

I had no idea about 2014, or the ideologies involved. My own world view wasn't clear either, I probably had an instinctive understanding that I wasn't bonjoursie, but not in clear enough terms to seek action from it.

Zelenski was everywhere, every tech company hoisted a blue yellow flag on their homepages, Russians were denied entry in competition. Which... Don't really contribute to much on the war effort, other than propaganda.

But propaganda eventually bends to reality. Only one line of analysis could explain the whole shit altogether, and it was completely ignored by western media.

Thank you comrades for lighting the way. Thank you independent media.

[-] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Just makes me wonder how long liberals are gonna continue to believe the lie, or how they're going to change the definition of what victory means. They're already doing it now.

[-] KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago

then how would continuing to stay and waste resources

Never forget that the bourgeoisie is being paid a lot for those resources and I doubt the politicians that serve them and also take some profit from this are in any hurry to stop.

[-] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Which implies that their biggest issue isn't even looking weak, lmao.

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