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From Pepe Escobar's telegram.

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[-] CommieBeetle@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I refuse to believe the europeans are so stupid to go to war with Russia. By their own admission the armed forces of basically all of NATO countries are in such a bad state that it will take decades to recover. No european NATO country has the military industrial capacity to compete with Russia, let alone win. And what little they have in stock already has been transfered to Ukraine. Specially in the case of Germany and the UK. What are they going to do? Fight Russia with the old Soviet and Warsaw pact equipment, run out of it the first week and then buy sone more from Russia? Chauvinism is no replacement for armor and ammo. Why would they think they can fight? Just because the gringos are cheering on them?! I do believe Europe has an enormous debt to the global south, but not to the point of continetal suicide and global catastrophe.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 8 months ago

By their own admission the armed forces of basically all of NATO countries are in such a bad state that it will take decades to recover

The media keeps telling them that each "Saint javelin" (actual circulating meme) takes a gazillion orcs every time it's used, likewise for every destroyed leopard or Bradley. The leap from this to "sure, it's in Bad shape, but together we shall persevere!" is not that far away.

No european NATO country has the military industrial capacity to compete with Russia

Not everyone in Russia understands this, much less in Europe

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 8 months ago

I also didn't believed they will commit economical seppuku since 2022 but they did, and many does so enthusiatically.

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 8 months ago

They absolutely are stupid enough and the libs will absolutely join the ~~dumbledore's~~ army to fight the evil Putler!

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 8 months ago

Europeans fighting zero-sum wars is historically accurate.

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago

I think France is stupid enough but Germany did say they wouldn’t drop troops in Ukraine so I think that’s admission of not wanting a direct war with Russia on their end. I do think the US and Canada are stupid enough to push it, though.

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 8 months ago

What Germany thinks and wants is irrelevant. They will do as they are told by Washington. They didn't even dare speak up about the US blowing up their main energy supply pipeline. They are a completely subjugated vassal state.

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago

Yeah, you’re right. At the end of the day they will follow their handlers to their own detriment. It’s a terrifying reality for everyone involved, Europe and North America. With the UK implementing a draft, I wonder which other countries will follow…

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 8 months ago

The germans were stupid enough to let the US blow up the pipeline they invested in, they are absolutely stupid enough.

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