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It's really good, but that's a stretch IMO.
I would agree, honestly. It transcends the basic action film format of previous films to tell a deeper story and still keep the action elements.
I'm not sure that it really tells a deeper story tbh. What's the deeper story?
Story felt about the same as the original to me, maybe even a little shallower - if only because it rehashed the lore from the original. It's been a while since I watched it, though. I def do remember it being hampered by it's budget.
I would say the fact that our heroine has to deal with both the Predator and European colonizers while having to prove to her tribe that she is a warrior makes it a much deeper story.
Yes, and both the Predator and the colonizers are both murderous alien races with future technology that she must overcome.
I liked the juxtaposition there. I liked it even better than the first movie.
I wish we could do less of the " prove to the tirbe/other men the woman is wortht" and just have the heroine be on equal footing from the start.. I enjoyed prey but felt that plotline distracted too much from the other narratives. Just like in Alien Ripley is already well respected and does not have to prove herself to the others.
I can't agree there. Her proving herself, overcoming her fears and showing her warrior spirit is going straight down Joseph Campbell's hero's journey.
I forgot about those subplots tbh.
Prey, purely as an action movie, doesn't compare to predator. Given your points about the plot, your argument that prey is a deeper movie is fair. But it's not a deep movie, so I wonder how much I should care about the "deeper" plot points when it's still shallow overall. It's an action movie, after all.
And yeah, some of the CGI was laughably bad and will age terribly. Predator still holds up as one of the greatest actions flicks of all time.
Good discussion though.
I would also suggest that just by being a movie about indigenous Americans without doing any "mystical Indian" bullshit alone makes it a deeper film just by showing their culture in a way that was closer to reality, while still hitting normal action film beats. And the CG doesn't bother me. CG films in the 90s can look awful and still be good.
Even before CG... Ghostbusters has some good effects and some god-awful ones. Like when Louis and Dana are transformed into hell hounds. It looks terrible.