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No, you don't understand. You didn't get treated yet, you're still waiting to be seen. If you don't pay for medical insurance then you wait 62518262 years to see a doctor and you die before you ever see them. Also they decide to let you die because something something government death panels.
-American media on universal healthcare.
Seriously though, almost any person you talk to in America that is against universal healthcare magically knows people in Canada that have died waiting to be seen or have 6 months wait times for their very painful conditions. Every time... Even people like my mother who I know doesn't know any Canadians says she does....
American "rugged individualism" has murdered compassion and empathy and has done nothing but foster greed amongst all of us. It's me me me me, MY tax money going to treat YOUR disease, taking up space making ME wait to be seen. Turns out ultra individualism makes for a shitty society.
That "in socialist European countries you get put on a waiting list" canard really doesn't wash anymore, either, since here in capitalist private insurance America I am at this very moment being forced to wait two months before I can even have my initial consultation with a doctor.
Two months.
There certainly are waiting lists for non-urgent stuff, and it does kinda suck. But FFS if you need help NOW you get it.
I'm in socialist New Zealand.... The current new government is trying to be less socialist, but they are getting a lot of bad press because some of their policies are just mean.
Total wait time... Hmmmmm let's see, about the amount of time it took for me to say "I'm having trouble breathing, my name and DoB" so they could look up my NHI number, all of 3 minutes.
I think you have hit the nail on the head with the "rugged individualism" comment. Just across from me is a dude from Sri Lanka, broken leg at the local mountain bike park. He deserves the best treatment we can give him, I have no idea if he has travel insurance or doesn't really matter, he is here we treat him.
It really is amazing how we went from "sharing is caring" to "you get yours yourself, I got mine already."
Your comment on the Sri Lankan dude is also spot on, a human being shouldn't have to suffer just because we're too selfish to help them whether it's by our taxes or whatever. It should be a point of pride that "our" country provides for whoever needs help and that our collective actions make that possible. That's an America I'd be proud of. Not the ultra capitalist greed machine we should be proud to be a part of because "GDP number big"....