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Just move the f’ing convention. It’s not just Alabama
Republican convention in 2020 was August 24th-27th, even later than the democrats scheduled this year. These laws are silly too, helping to encourage the already ridiculously long presidential campaign to take even longer by pushing conventions further back. Trump can't be kept off the ballot for an insurrection, but setting a deadline earlier than most states that exceptions are routinely made for and it's never been an issue before? Well that's serious, better keep him off the ballot I guess /s.
Literally the opposite of what's happening...
No, that's incorrect. Alabama is complaining that the democratic convention is too late (even though they have allowed it later for Republicans in the past). They set an earlier deadline for the nomination to be finalized, trying to force conventions to take place earlier. This would lengthen the main presidential campaign after the conventions take place. Since all primaries have to be done by the time a convention takes place, earlier conventions also put pressure for there to be earlier primaries too. There's no reason we need the presidential campaign proper lengthened from two months to two and a half months at Alabama and Ohio's whims. Two months is more than enough.
Democrats and Republicans alternate who has the earlier and later primary each year. If we allow these states to start pushing conventions out from August more and more, then instead of one party in July and one party in August, we'll end up with one party in July and one in June before you know it.
Also the cynic in me says that because it was predictable that democrats would be the late convention this year (since they alternate with republicans and Republicans were later in 2020), the red states that passed laws that moved their deadlines even earlier did this to try and create this exact situation.
You just said the complete opposite of what you said before...
Type less, it's easier for people to explain one thing you're wrong about than 20. You're starting out with a flawed premise and just going off.
Maybe someone else will be willing to help you.
The comment was 4 sentences? I said the same thing both times, and just elaborated more on why in the second comment since you misconstrued my first.
I just want to point out the irony that you’re ragging on the other poster for too many words while your single sentence vaguely alludes to something wrong without actually specifying what’s wrong.
Surely that was important for it to be the second comment you've ever made from your porn account...
Definitely can't be that you're just an alt of the other account and you realized I blocked that one.
Surely another inactive account wo t jump up when you realize I blocked this one too . That's never happened before.
I say this seriously, you’re having far too strong of reactions to pretty minor things. I understand you may be trolling, in which case bravo. But if you aren’t trolling you may want to consider talking to someone about what seems like an abundance of emotion that’s unrelated to what’s being discussed here.
Anyway, hope you’re doing well and find some peace.
Ohio too...
The people running the DNC are completely fucking incompetent if they can't even work a fucking calendar.
Why are we letting this group of unelected idiots be so involved with our political system?
I think that might be an unfair assessment of the situation, at least in Alabama.
They're clearly playing favorites, it's not the first time a party didn't meet the deadline and they've always been accommodated.
I know both parties missed it in 2020, so some states moved it for both.
But thats the only time I've heard of it happening.
And while republicans and trump finally got their shit together and figured out how a calendar works, the DNC and Biden did not.
There is a very easy fix here, the DNC follows the rules and moves up their convention. And hopefully they can remember to look at a calendar in 2028.
But why in the absolute fuck are we still letting them run the only other option when they're this fucking stupid?
Like, did you already forget about them demanding the NH party violate state election law a few months ago?
This is an established pattern of behavior: the DNC doesn't think rules apply to them.
That should scare the shit out of everyone
I'm greatly in favor of anyone pressuring NH over this. There's no reason why Iowa and New Hampshire should get such an outsized roll in deciding who the nominees are, over and over again, every election, for a century. And the people who live in states farther in the primary calendar basically get no say. There should be a rotation of states if anything.
New Hampshire's state law is ridiculous and unenforceable too, all it would take is another state passing their own law saying, no we go first, and suddenly there is no way both laws could be upheld at the same time, and they're trying to hopscotch each other pushing farther and farther back in the calendar. Policies like New Hampshire's law are why we have candidate debates over a year before the actual election! Whole situation is ridiculous.
While I share some of your concerns about the DNC, I'm not gonna shed a tear for the voters in New Hampshire and Iowa that had more say than anyone else in the country about who would be president for a century.
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The only ones that can change NH state law, is the NH state government...
And they're all Republicans. They ain't changing the law to help Democrats.
So if you're saying you're ok with this, that means you're ok with disenfranchising all the Democrats in that state for something they have zero control of.
I'm not saying that's not what you're doing, it seems like you think it's perfectly fine.
But it's incredibly undemocratic and embarrassing to see so many people with your opinion
No that's incorrect, the party could always have arranged their own nominating contest and still had delegates. There was nothing preventing them from doing that, and that's what the DNC urged them to do many times. The state cannot stop a political party (a private organization) from picking their own candidates and delegates. For instance, in Nevada the republican party there decided they did not want to line up with the state selected primary date, and held their own caucus instead that did award delegates.
The state democratic party in New Hampshire that chose not to do this (because they believe they should always get to have first say) and the state government that passed this dumb law (for the same reason) are the ones disenfranchising people here. And no, don't put words in my mouth, I'm not in favor of disenfranchising anyone. The state party should have just held their own nominating contest later so that they would have had delegates. And New Hampshire shouldn't have the sole authority to determine the presidential election schedule for everyone else. If other states acted like them we'd have a never ending game of who's primary is actually first.