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I'm in the "pro gun crowd" and I, and many of us, absolutely do not think he should own a gun. Many of us very much support keeping firearms out of the hands of people with a history of violent tendencies and torturing animals. What are you talking about?? That's like, one of the few things that the "pro gun crowd" and "gun grabbers" actually agree on.
So what are you doing to stop it and why does it fail over and over again?
Vote for increasingly tight background checks, micro stamping, and other solutions that don't rely on the delusional and childish belief that only the batshit crazy police should have guns? What are you doing about it? I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and guess voting for the public policy version of a miracle cure. How responsible.
Cool, sounds good.
Your guns have done absolutely nothing to bring police reform. Can you name even a single person in the last 20 years who has shot their way out of a confrontation with "batshit crazy police"?
It's a marketing strategy to sell guns to people who don't trust the police, not an actual solution to the problem. In fact, pull that gun on a cop that wants to kill you and they'll be thrilled that your murder won't even be investigated.
No miracles needed, just policy that has worked the world over and enough time for it to become effective.
It's funny though, despite you being such an ally of gun control, I've never seen you among the pro-gun crowd accusing their solution of being "delusional" or a "miracle cure" when they've claimed "we just need to elimate poverty and permanently and completely cure every man, woman and child of mental illnesses, even the ones that don't want treatment, so its safe to sell them guns".
Oh well, I'm sure you'll get your chance after the next mass shooting.
"Policy that has worked the world over" conveniently ignoring that the countries you're obliquely referring to are not the ones without guns, but the ones with meaningful social mobility and instead you're pretending that the stronger correlation is guns. Across time and space, low social mobility among young men, specifically, correlates with rates of violence. But instead of trying to actually address the difficult issue here you're just going to click those pretty little red shoes together three times and wish for a single policy that solves this extremely complex problem. Just unbelievably childish and naïve. Nothing but virtue signaling, hollier than thou bullshit.
Very few countries have no guns and presenting gun control this way makes it clear that your information about gun control comes from pro-gun groups.
This changes nothing. You're just admitting that the current gun laws in America are inadequate for current state of society.
This only holds up if I do only support a single policy. Feel free to name any progressive policy aimed at addressing wealth inequality or access to healthcare and I'll openly state I support it.
But the pro-gun community is a cult that insists the current gun laws are a sacred text that must never be changed (except to make worse). At best you're saying "we should address every factor except one".
Your solution is "we should just not have criminals any more" so you're not in any position to call someone childish and naive. The closest it ever comes to reality is "we should reduce crime to a point where gun violence can be swept under the rug".
That would still make me a better person than a colossally self-absorbed gun owner insisting we sacrifice our lives and build them a utopia beyond what the world has ever seen, all so they're not inconvenienced buying a gun for their hobby.