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A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

they accepted a two-state solution previously, the isreali PM that was negotiating with them at the time was assassinated.

[-] gimpchrist@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by an Israeli law student who didn't believe in the peace talks. Hamas didn't even kill him, Israel did it. No fucking surprise there.

[-] DdCno1@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago

Hamas was also not in power back then, in no position to accept or reject any solution.

[-] thatirishguyyy@lemmy.today 6 points 6 months ago

You saying Israel killed him is like saying Palestine committed Oct. 7th's terrorist attack.

Israel didn't kill the guy, a lone Israeli student did. This is one of those times when facts and nuance matter.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

they accepted a two-state solution previously, the isreali PM that was negotiating with them at the time was assassinated.

That was Fatah, not Hamas. Hamas was irrelevant back in the 90s and didn't rise to prominence until the mid-2000s.

[-] thatirishguyyy@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago

That was in the 70's, he was killed by a student, not the government.

And the PA, including Yasser Arafat, have turned it down 4 or 5 times. Yasser Arafat turned it down last time in 2002/2004(?). They have never taken it seriously.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Camp Davis and the Oslo Accords were a way for Israel to change the De Facto annexation of the West Bank into a De Juro annexation. While giving the PA a 'semblence' of a state still under Israeli Military Control. There was no offer of a sovereign state, nor of right of return. Arafat didn't reject a Two-State Solution, he walked away from a verbal 'offer' of taking 90% (later ~80% once written up in Oslo) of the Occupied Palestinian Territories, while ignoring all Palestinian wants such as Right of Return and Sovereignty with an end to Occupation.

Camp David: a tragedy of errors - The Guardian

Deconstructing Camp David - Al Jazeera

What Really Happened Between Barak and Arafat at Camp David? - Haaretz

Oslo accords: 30 years on, the dream of a two-state solution seems further away than ever - The Conversation

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

If Arafat wasn’t serious about negotiations, why sit down at all and risk his position in the PLO? For decades the ‘Three Nos’ stunted any Arab-Israeli diplomacy, and the maximalists still hold sway today as they did then

Israel refused the right of return for Palestinians as a whole, while for decades doing all within their power to boost Jewish immigration, bankroll Aliyah flights, rubber stamp naturalization, and regular ‘missionary’ trips to visit US and European nations - all only for ethnic Jews, and their spouses.

A two-tiered system based on race is hardly a fair deal, especially in a democratic system where your people are denied fair representation whilst Jew from the world over are invited to jump on a plane and become a full citizen after three months

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago

Every offer has been in bad faith, though, designed to be a non-starter so that Israel could claim they tried.

[-] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Better check that history video again. It wasn't Hamas at that table

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