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The password crackdown will work, sadly. However is it going to be enough to make up for the fact that Disney's got nothing right now except shitting out sequels?
I don't know that it will work. How many additional people sign up when these password sharing crackdowns happen? I doubt it's enough to make their number crunchers happy.
Several million
Which every company saw, and that's why they're all gonna do this too.
I know I'm just an anecdote but Netflix had some ridiculous deal where I paid $75 for a year of Starz and I got Netflix for free. So they got to pretend like they didn't lose me when in reality I was imminently going to quit due to the password crackdown.
So much of modern business is just hoodwinking investors into thinking infinite growth is possible.
Sure, but note the second part of my post.
The second part of your post is too vague and subjective to comment on. Are accountants not supposed to be happy with an additional $59 million in subscription revenue? That's all in a 3-month period.
And even if not, note the rest of the article. They're not solely cracking down on password sharing, the service is getting more expensive too. They all are. Disney is not charting new territory with any of this.
The thing is that this isn't an endpoint. We've got corporations that comfortably clear multiple billions in profit each quarter and the investors get sad when that number doesn't keep going up because that was last quarter. It's like the world's fattest men insist that they're starving to death. Investors will be satisfied with this for a quarter, and then they'll have to turn to some other scheme to try and inflate profits further. I get that this is nominally how capitalism is supposed to work, but I think that putting the investor as the first, last, and only consideration has caused a proliferation of slash-and-burn style short-termism. It's fake growth because it's not actually sustainable, everyone knows it, but you just try and keep it up until the next short term scheme can keep your stonks inflated.
Imo, the market has already shown that it won't bear infinite growth in streaming services (what with every network trying to start their own proprietary netflix-priced service), and they're going to start running into that ceiling again as they all start to raise prices. The consumer just doesn't have unlimited money, especially after the Fed pooped its pants when workers got their first real wage growth in 40 years and decided that it was a nightmare inflation scenario.
It's very true. When the owner-class still dominated decision-making, there was a level of rationality in firm behavior - as there were owners who felt that the firm was their property, they were motivated to keep it healthy. Shear the sheep. From the viewpoint of the owner, this is rational - there is no sense in destroying what makes you money in the long term.
But investors have no such urge, and as the investor-class has come to dominate decision-making and not just capital allocation, they've begun slaughtering the sheep to gorge themselves and move onto the next. This, from their viewpoint, is perfectly rational decision-making - they are maximizing their gain from each investment, wringing it dry, and then leaving what's left (preferably before the stock crashes) to find a new, healthy host. I mean, investment. They have no incentive to maintain the health of the firm, not even in an exploitative sense. What is it that Marx calls them? Rentier capitalists?
It's not sustainable. Not even by capitalism's admittedly low standards.
I'm not sure what's too vague about it. If the decision isn't going to generate them enough revenue for it to make enough of a difference to the people who care about the profits, then they may find out that it wasn't worth doing in the long-term. Considering Disney's profits, that sounds like a drop in the bucket.
It's a win-win situation for the streaming companies no matter what. The people who weren't paying will either stop watching entirely (no longer costing Disney anything) or they pay up and become an additional subscriber. It doesn't matter if it's a small increase in profits or not, it's still an increase so it's happening.
You can scroll back through older social media posts from when Netflix announced this. How many folks said they were done? How much did that cost Netflix in the end? Literally nothing!
PR always has a cost.
That remains to be seen here. Netflix was all "love is sharing your password" and now they're "fuck you pay up" and they're being rewarded with millions of subs.
I get where you're coming from but so far there's no data to back up what you're saying.
The same was said about Netflix. That didn't appear to manifest
There is a lot of selection bias here on lemmy. The majority of us are technical enough to either know where to find free streaming sites or torrent.
The large majority of customers aren't.
It's why these crackdowns work. They've done the math. They know they'll make more money then they'll lose.
It's also that they basically raised a generation of users who never had to pirate. Truth is 20 years ago there was literally no alternative to pirating. So you either figured it out or you'd have to drive to the store.
Nowadays, most consumers have gotten complacent, which is understandable given how good the legal alternatives were at one point.
However, while the initial steps might be a bit more difficult nowadays (I strongly advise against torrenting without a paid VPN), getting to a convenient setup is much easier nowadays. The *arrs, jellyfin, Kodi, docker, Android devices connected to a big screen etc. enable anyone willing to spend the time to create a setup that can rival commercial offerings.
Just to emphasize, I don't condone piracy here, but the direction the industry is going is unsurprisingly off-putting.
Even with the arrs, jellyfin, et al, it's still not a turn-key solution. Fmovies and the like are more "user friendly" as they don't require any special software outside of knowing the URL.
Unfortunately, sharing those urls are often against website rules and you sort of have to learn them as you explore piracy in general.
Not quite, all I wanted to express is that spending the time, you can get an experience close to the commercial offerings. And I guess with docker based setups it's rather easy. Never used it though.
Personally I've never been a fan of piracy streaming sites, they always seemed so sketchy.
Disney has Hulu, and that's enough for some people.
Onward, elemental, wish, soul, reya... Some of the original properties that Disney has released in the last 5 years and nobody went to see. The only originals that have done well were Encanto and turning red.
People like to shit on Disney's lack of originals, but nobody goes to watch them when they release them. People only want sequels so that's what they get. In truth, people like you who complain about Disney's lack of original films don't actually watch Disney films
How many of those were actually good, though?
Genuinely asking, I only saw 3 out of the 5 and don't remember being blown away by any of them. I'm not sure I even remember the plot of some.
But I can still immediately recall songs from both Encanto and Moana and I haven't seen either of those in years.
This guy's full of it claiming that the only complainers are people who don't watch the movies. I've seen all these movies as I have a kid and a lot of them are "meh". Frozen was an original property and it blew up big. Same with Moana, Inside Out, Encanto, Big Hero 6, Wreck it Ralph, Brave, etc.
Furthermore they're ignoring the rest of the Disney catalog and rehashed sequels outside of animated films "of the last 5 years." What about all the terrible live-action remakes? What about all the Star Wars and Marvel sequels? Those have all done terrible as well.
I would personally say all of the movies mentioned range from good to amazing. I think all of them would be worth seeing in theaters (not that they're all must-see movies though).
2 of those came out in 2020 and Raya was still during COVID, so it's really not fair to lump those in. I was mostly talking about the movies they released just last year, their big 100th year. Indy 5, Wish, The Marvels, Ant-Man 3. None of them did as well as Disney needed.
Meanwhile movies about long-established toys like Mario and Barbie each made a billion+, and people were willing to go see a 3-hour docu-drama about a scientist. So we know it's not the "people don't go to the theaters anymore" excuse. People just aren't getting dressed to watch crap and that's what Disney's been known for lately.
Now the real challenge is getting the cartoon titles under a single word