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Enough consecutive Democratic wins and both parties will be forced to shift further left to capture more of the vote. That requires people to show up and vote in all elections, not just presidential. You can blame Bush and his shift of the Overton Window on the disenfranchisement of Gen X, but it’s starting to sound like young Millennials and Gen Z are willing to let Israel justify an even larger shift to the right.
And that short-sightedness will not only fail to yield results, but will allow for a shift in the opposite direction. They’re not the first generation to face this problem. They could be the first generation in decades to do something about it.
If it's short-sighted as you call it, then please educate us on when this has ever happened in the past.
Please explain how the Democratic party dominating the political landscape will make them abandon their ways and move to the left. Do you think winning elections will make them abandon their political donors? If anything, losing to Trump in 2016 should have driven the party further left but instead we got another Republican-lite candidate who barely beat Trump. The same person who lost to Clinton in the primaries previously and that is who we have as a candidate once again. "Winning" doesn't usually make people reflect on their actions and decide they need to change.
It’s not an immediate shift. As I said in my previous comment, we’d need sustained representation in multiple branches to shift the Overton window. It wouldn’t be difficult if we just showed up and voted. That’s where Democrats fail, time and time again. Republican success is directly tied to voter turnout. It’s the reason why Trump advocates don’t try to convince you that he’s great, they just try to get you down on Biden so you abstain.
You still haven't explained how this shifts the Overton window. You speak as if the only reason why they can't get anything done is because of Republicans yet the Republicans somehow get their shitty agenda passed time and time again while making up a similar percentage of the legislature.
And Trump supporters do try to convince everyone that he's great. That's what the 'G' in MAGA stands for on the hats they all wear...
If Democrats repeatedly win elections, they’ll begin competing more aggressively in primaries to capture more of the vote. The more progressive the winners of the primaries, the more the window shifts. Republican candidates will have no choice but to come closer to center to capture the moderate votes. They’re in control of the right-wing propaganda machine, so they’ll continue to shift the narrative to whatever encompasses their candidate while pointing a finger at opposition, and their loyal supporters will follow suit. That’s how they got the lemmings to the edge of the cliff in the first place. They’re the only ones that can reel them back in.
How about expecting leftists to vote for the one of two likely candidates to win who isn't a Nazi rapist who openly says he wants to be a dictator?