399
Biden camp warns Trump could still get re-elected with ‘unhinged campaign of revenge’
(www.independent.co.uk)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 30 May 2024
399 points (96.9% liked)
politics
19072 readers
3810 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Some 10% to 27% of Americans, depending on whom you ask, want the full Trump program: mass executions of liberals, bans on contraception and homosexuality, Christian nationalism, the whole Unified Reich thing, and plenty of opportunities to denounce annoying neighbours/coworkers/acquaintances as “woke” and have then taken away. Another 10-20% are low-information voters who “aren’t political”, but know, from news headlines, that things are in some way not going well, and based on vibes, believe it’s time for a change of administration. Being nonpolitical, they don’t care who replaces Biden, as long as it’s someone else, and of course, don’t understand Duverger’s Law and the Electoral College and thus don’t see why it couldn’t be literally anyone else.
You're forgetting a decent subset. Ones who are informed but would rather vote 3rd party, which due to not having Teddy Roosevelt won't do shit, rather than vote for either of these guys
Or not at all. The Biden first term has been deeply depressing and demotivating. At some point, people have to live their lives and can't be entirely subsumed in politics.
If they're struggling to make rent, if they can't get health care after picking up the Long COVID or caring for a relative to did, if they're still crippled by student debts that never got relieved, if they've got loved ones abroad or in border detention centers who are being brutalized by US foreign policy, if they can't afford a new car because Biden just slapped a giant tariff in cheap new imports, or who are simply too overworked and underpaid to afford the luxury of a political fixation, I can see people tuning out this election cycle as another media circus.
If Biden's truly changing the lives of millions of people with his public policy, maybe none of that will matter. Maybe there will be legions of staunch Biden-heads bellying up to the polls in support of their savior. But I see a step gulf between what Democrats say is happening and what people sick of this administration are experiencing. I suspect that gulf will be what sinks him in November.
i suspect abortion is the life line that will give biden the victory he wants
I completely agree that's what I meant by the 3rd party. Those who will refuse to vote for either and I tend to find that more common from those who would've voted Democrat compared to the ones that would've voted Republican
You find lots of defectors in homogenous states. Texas is flush with libertarian conservatives who believe they aren't served by the GOP. California has it's fill of socialists disgusted with corporate shills in the "liberal" party.
Swing states have to play friendlier with these types of voters, producing lots of oddball candidates like Dennis Kucinich and Ilhan Omar. One reason Dem Senators are running so far ahead of Biden is due to their moderate appeal in their states relative to his extremist views.
duverger's "law" is a useless tautology.