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DeSantis vetoes all arts grants in Florida
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Florida and her meatball will be textbook evidence of a failed state swallowed by the Ocean and drowned by social conservatism terrorism.
Not for another 40-150 years. By then local politics will have shifted substantially in the state, and future external fascists can claim Florida was destroyed for being too brown, woke, and gay.
Florida woke and brown? Half the state literally needs to take a nap, and the only brown is in their Depends.
Florida has one of the highest Latin and African American populations in the country. They just aren't allowed to vote.
And over half of the under 18 population of Florida is non-white. In another twenty years it will be majority minority.
By the time to state is fully fucked by climate change, you're going to see reactionaries in the Midwest having a field day saying the state failed because it turned into "Detroit" wink wink nudge nudge
Detroit failed because of automation and off-shoring. Things that could have been repaired or prevented politically, sure. But not directly caused by policies based in bigotry and ignorance.
If any correlation can be made, it's from white-flight. Which would be caused by Detroit's massive loss of jobs and Florida's massive loss of land. But white flight, imo, is the reaction, not the catalyst, of its downfall.
That's the mechanism behind why it failed, but not the reason for the policy. Automation and off-shoring were tools intended to re-segregate and depress the wealth of the working class. Once the city sufficiently shocked into collapse, financial investment came flooding back into the city in the form of foreclosure sale purchases and low-wage service sector expansion. The modern city is seeing the first population expansion it's enjoyed in decades, but with an enormous new disparity in income and political organization between the richest and poorest residents. Dan Gilbert, the co-founder of the largest private mortgage lender in the US - Quicken Loans (now Rocket Mortgage) - owns enormous swaths of the downtown district and has his talons in a host of municipal and state political figures.
He's revitalized the city with enormous amounts of public money, laundered into private profits, through the private lending racket. And he's used the depressed wages and real estate values in the town to reap huge margins on the cost of labor, relative to more traditional finance centers like New York or Dallas.
This sounds like social regressivism rather than terrorism.
Might be that they will, but for now they are doing very well on an objective scale, beeing placed on #1 for education and economy compared to the other states and beeing on #9 overall.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida
If this is able to hold will remain to be seen.
This is the same Florida where the governor has already gotten rid of some AP courses and has suggested getting rid of them completely, right?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/02/14/desantis-florida-ap-courses-college-board-feud/11250682002/
This is also the same Florida that now teaches children that black people learned useful skills when they were slaves, right?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-florida-standards-teach-black-people-benefited-slavery-taught-usef-rcna95418
Sounds like pretty low bar.
That is one sketchy ranking if I ever saw one.
OP is being dishonest about it too. It's #1 for higher education in Florida, #10 for K-12. And I'm not sure where they get #10 from because it looks like it's marginally above average based on their own numbers.
In fact, as far as I can tell, their whole metric for #1 is because Florida college students end up in less debt than in other states. And that is great, don't get me wrong, but not exactly the best education metric.
It's a bit silly that Florida ranks above states like Massachusetts and California when it comes to higher education. I don't know that any Florida university comes close to Harvard or CalTech. Cheaper, sure. A better quality education? I doubt it.
Same for economics. Their metrics are slightly above average, how is that #1?
I hadn't even looked into it after seeing how bogus the education numbers were, but that also doesn't shock me.
It also occurred to me that their main metric for K-12 education was high school graduation rate and since there's no national education standards, that can mean different things for different states. The other metric was a math score based on something I've never heard of, but it was not a test my 14-year-old here in Indiana has taken yet and it's not the SATs.
And part of their education score is "citizens holding degrees" which... That's not education, that's attainment rate.
And a lot of those citizens are retirees from other states who can afford to retire in Florida. So of course they're more likely to hold degrees.
"Your education system is better because it has a lower percentage of school age children"
Brilliant
Their whole methodology is not well outlined, and it's unclear how they calculated anything. For example, they ranked Florida as having cheaper college than Wyoming, but on average college in Florida costs 3 times as much as in Wyoming?
I'm sort of wondering if the ranking is based on how much money the state has given U.S. News to rank them where they're ranked.
Because DeSantis using money that could have otherwise been used as arts funding to pay off organizations to give Florida high education rankings would be pretty on brand for him.
The quality of education in these states varies radically by zip code and regional average income.
In California, the local school board superintendent Joseph Komrosky lost a recall election for trying to ban critical race theory (a thing his district wasn't formally teaching) on campuses, among other shady bullshit. But his ilk isn't unusual in the right wing fruit basket of SoCal or the Techbro patriarchy infesting the Stanford campus.
Education in these states can be better. But it can also be right in line with the Florida reactionary crowd, and for the same reasons. This is a national project by American plutocrats to brainwash the next generation of young people.
Well he's already axing that 1% in education by cutting all the arts funding. Science will probably be next.
A short boost from tax breaks to convince rich people to move there doesn't make the place financially successful or livable. It just looks better for a bit.
The category is a bit wider than that, but yes, low taxes seem to contribute.
https://www.richstatespoorstates.org/states/FL/
Edit:
Did a little digging after some flaws have been pointed out by @Silentia below. This source is not neutral.
https://ballotpedia.org/ALEC_Rich_States,_Poor_States_Report
It's more than half though. It really is very heavily implied here that taxes are the main way you can tell an economy is doing well.
How the state taxes you:
Vs how the money is spent:
Also, the higher the minimum wage, the lower the ranking.
Did some digging, you are spot on. Please see my edit of the original post.
I'm assuming that's the Laffer behind "the Laffer curve," AKA the unscientific bullshit "graph" he drew on a cocktail napkin that would essentially become the basis for supply-side economics AKA "trickle down."
That Laffer?
Because ruining the US economy and setting us on a 3+ decade ride towards record (and frankly inhumane) income inequality once just wasn't enough I guess.
Fucking ghouls.
If billionaire real estate magnets say your education system is good, who are we to argue?
I took a look at the first ranking I saw. You a free to have a look for studys or other objective sources that come to a different conclusion.
I don't wish to invest that time right now, but I'll be happy to be proven wrong by a better source if you want to look for one.
Maybe don't cite something if you have no idea how it reached its conclusions.
Fair point I guess.