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I think in a developed nation, "veganism" almost always connotes some amount of health consciousness, which can be expensive. Different, I imagine, in rice-and-lentils developing parts of the world.
AFAIK Oreos, sour patch kids, taco bell bean burritos, and ~~McD's French fries~~ are vegan...but they're not associated with "vegan culture."
Edit: strike through fries
Quick correction: McD’s fries are vegan everywhere except the US. They use some sort of milk and “natural beef flavoring” in the breading here for some dumb ass reason. In Europe they’re vegan though.
That’s just ridiculous to me. Why? I have had fries plenty of times which were way better than McDonald fries and all they were made of was potatoes, oil, and salt. The perfect French fry doesn’t need anything other than that. It’s all about choosing the right potato variety and then it all comes down to cooking technique.
The fact that McDonald puts anything else in their fries just makes me shake my head.
McDonalds fries have 19 ingredients, many of them processing chemicals, and one labeled Natural Beef Flavor [wheat And Milk Derivatives]*), they have been sued over it a few times and at various points McD made PR videos showing their fries are safe, so i would imagine it is not actually fit for human consumption Source
ETA: When McD hired Grant Imahara, has very big Kari Byron supporting Big Oil vibes
Didnt know about either of that, thats disappointing (the grant and kari thing)
Usually when things like this happen, its because someone has a buddy that sells something like milk powder, and they're lining their pockets
Well hopefully they’re not putting melamine in the milk powder!
McDonald's also fries things in beef tallow, iirc
Edit: after confirming online, there are multiple reports saying that McD's stopped using animal-based fats for cooking some 5-30 years ago depending on the market (e.g. US, Canada, etc.). The big push to move away from beef tallow in the US was in the '90s, and now McDonald's confirms that there is beef flavoring in their fries.
Edit 2: and I guess McDonald's uses mostly a canola-based oil blend, but beef flavoring still goes into the blend.
Edit 3: And looking at the ingredients of the vegetable oil itself, the beef flavorants come from hydrolyzed milk derivatives, so not vegan. Apparently McDonald's uses different oils for different things, so I wonder if in the future people could ask for the oil without the flavoring.
That used to be true. It is not the case any more. I believe that is why they now add natural beef flavoring to their fries.
Think they still add the beef flavoring to the oil. Check my edits
Damn. Good work gathering those links.
Also: fuck off, mcdonalds.
No way, that's too expensive
Apparently it's not beef tallow per say anymore, but beef flavoring. See my edits above
Are you vegan, because all of those second paragraph things are associated with veganism.
Well idk about taco bell cause I'm not a seppo but literally when I told me sister I was going vegan and asked if she had advice she said "Sour patch kids and oreos are vegan"
I've lived in my car and definitely taco-bell was a go-to option on rainy days. I usually order a few bean burritos. Substitute black beans because its mor calories and the same price.
I'm vegetarian and mostly keep to a vegan diet.
I guess my experience has been that those things are mentioned more as novelties, as in, "hey crazy thing but instead of kale chips you can eat sour patch kids!" But that's just my experience.