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[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 months ago

What publication is this from

[-] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago
[-] snf@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Oof. So she's basically Serena Joy from the Handmaid's Tale. Or tried to be

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Oh that may be the most scathing article I’ve read. She deserves that level of journalistic disdain

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 25 points 4 months ago

Not sure, but Laura Southern had a moment like this and documented it for the world to read.

[-] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

That article tried to "both sides" so hard it made my brain hurt.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

"I was a liberal, now I'm a conservative; she's a fascist and she's still a fascist but she's upset that fascists are being fascist towards HER - do we have anything in common?"

Spoiler: yes.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago

That was a really interesting read with a lot more expansion and nuance than I expected at first, thanks!

For those reading it’s a lot more thorough than simply “right wing men beat women” or something. Worth checking out

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago

It's a challenge.

Southern is still a complex (and, for me, thoroughly unlikable) person with odious views, but it's an interesting journey if for no other reason than you can see just how powerful a force tribalism is in human psychology; how it lets people get right up to the point of dealing with the incongruity of their tribe versus their safety/well-being/reality.

The other place I saw this is in watching the flat-Earther documentary Behind the Curve: there's moments in it when you can see people get within a hair's breath of rationalization, but get held back not by stupidity, or ignorance, but tribalism.

We make a big mistake in thinking that the reason people are the way they are because of ignorance or stupidity. That's not it; they are the way they are because human tribalism has millions of years of success behind it. Up until, oh, the last hundred years or so, ostracism meant real death, so our monkey brains, though millions of years of selection, developed group cohesion and social strategies to help us stay within our in-group. Unfortunately, in the last century or so, that tribal instinct is proving maladaptive.

It's a little like how we're evolved to process sugar, which has hundreds of millions of positive evolutionary enforcement, only to fail at the outside-context problem that is McDonalds & Coca Cola.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago

I’m actually very much of the same mindset as you. For instance, I often frame QAnon folks, particularly those who are not on YouTube profiting, as victims. Something is wrong in their life and a bad person sold them incorrect solution, but a solution all the same.

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

A problem for the people in politics and on social media who are profiting off it without believing in it is that, eventually, either Hamlet syndrome kicks in and you start believing it, or the fascist followers you've been yoking get out of control and you need to start doing actual Nazi stuff to save your own skin.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago

She [Southern] hopes that in speaking out she can reassure “all of these women who are thinking in their heads: I’m uniquely terrible, and I’m uniquely making a mistake” that no: something is more generally amiss.

There’s nothing unique about it, and the problem is indeed more general. If I had to sum it up in one word, I’d say empathy. The alt-right lacks empathy. Expecting empathy from an alt-right husband just isn’t realistic.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago
[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 months ago

Oh this is from 7 years ago lol I saw this post and thought “didn’t we already kind of establish this in the media a while back?”

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