305

Israel blows up Rafah water facility amid mounting war crimes accusations (www.msn.com)

submitted 3 months ago by Deceptichum@quokk.au to c/world@lemmy.world

40 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

What if the soldiers and superiors stop shooting people on the spot. Okay wait, wait. What if... people stop obeying some lunatic single elderly people that tell us to kill other men, period, and just... not do it?

That would be neat. Imagine if humans knew what it means to be many against few, strong against weak. What we could accomplish...

[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 months ago

There was a massive protest by ex military and general public demanding the right of raping Palestinians. This is not about elderly people deploying orders.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

But where are they getting the idea that this is morally correct? Indoctrination. If our governments had no such power to influence its population, and/or limit its access to the truth, we could be so much wiser as a world population.

But it most certainly is, in general, about elderly giving orders. So many soldiers do not want to go to war. You really think the majority of soldiers in the world want to be in a war? That is ridiculous.

[-] Reverendender@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

Can you cite this for me? I need to read up. Somehow I’ve been understanding that they were protesting in support of the Palestinians.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago

Jesus, you want a citation for this?

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israelis-protest-arrest-of-soldiers-accused-of-gang-raping-gazan-detainee/3288825

There have been protests inside Israel for ceasefire, the org Standing Together has done a lot of good organizing inside the country.

But one thing that Oct.7 accomplished was show the divisions in society wrt Palestinian apartheid. Its getting more difficult for people who can't abide it to coexist with people who are okay with it; and the people who believe there should be even more brutality and violence against Palestinians are becoming a major problem for both of those groups. The state of Israel is fracturing, while groups like the PFLP, Hamas and Fatah are coming together for the first time in decades. While some of the tactics of Hamas are unconscionable, and Fatah has a long collaborationist history with Israel, it definitely indicates a dramatic change of the dynamics in the region. We'll see what holds together and what breaks apart. Its very sad that Marwan Barghouti is currently imprisoned, he's one of the most popular figures in Palestine whereas Fatah and Hamas are fairly unpopular

[-] Zakkull@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

People like citation so as to not blindly believe anything and everything they just mindlessly read on the internet. Its kinda suspicious that youre being antagonistic about someone wanting to see a source on an outrageous claim like that.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago

I didn't mean it to be antagonistic, and I provided a source. Its just such a disgusting story, bereft of any humanity. I wish I had never heard about it, I just couldn't believe someone wanted to like read about it

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

What we could accomplish…

a lot outside the military.

there is no such thing as an egalitarian military; they're tools of oppression and hegemony, not improvement.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, no, what I meant was to imagine what we could accomplish as a world population, if we realized that the many outrank the few, and we just stopped fighting each other. That would speed us all along so freaking fast, towards daily food and water and shelter for every single person on earth.

But no, we gotta kill each other for nonsense.

this post was submitted on 30 Jul 2024

305 points (96.6% liked)

World News

39032 readers

2287 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.