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[-] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago

There we go, that didn't take long

[-] _different_username@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Yeah, if that's what Johnny Cash was talking about, then what was Trent Reznor talking about?

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

His empire of shit. Probably fertilizer, creating a healthy garden.

Edit: see below. I remembered wrong.

[-] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 months ago

The empire is DIRT. The crown is SHIT. Get it right

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

You're right. That'll teach me to comment while sober. I'd have remembered that if I were drunk.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Sober is Tool, try to keep up.

[-] Iamsqueegee@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

Empire = dirt Crown = thorns/shit (JC/NIN) Chair = liar’s

[-] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Who knows

[-] NoTagBacks@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

My wife is gonna appreciate the meme, but yeah, she's gonna roll her eyes about who the song is attributed to... all the more reason to send it.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

I'm pretty sure it's the worm thing.

[-] joneskind@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Is the NIN version of Hurt about worms though?

That’s what I thought…

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 4 points 4 months ago

Maybe, but both artists didn't necessarily think about the same.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

I love the different styles of Cash's version, nine inch nails, and the Eric Whitacre choral version. They all bring out different parts of the text, and the comparison is fascinating.

[-] SuperNinjaFury@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

While we're at it I'd like to mention this bardcore version I found that's pretty good

https://youtu.be/g4UZRYShjYU?si=aqVJzqlpx7eVhV6U

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Well that's an immediate subscribe from me.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Well that was quite the rabbit hole. 2 new subscriptions out of it.

[-] SuperNinjaFury@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Hell yeah! Glad I could help you find something you like, same thing happened to me when I first ran across that channel a few months ago lol.

[-] mr_sifl@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

My favorite version is NIN with Bowie

[+] glimse@lemmy.world -6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I just don't get the appeal and have never figured out what his version brings to the table...he wasn't exactly a tortured artist and the music video is half him looking sad at a piano, half archival footage of all the cool things he did in his life.

I feel like if Johnny Cash wasn't The Man In Black, that recording would have stayed in the studio.

[Edit] I know he had struggles, that's not what a tortured artist means. If you're gonna reply at all, address my opinion on the quality. What does it add other than a self-aggrandizing Jesus comparison? Would the song have any recognition if not for the singer?

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I'm not a huge Cash fan but dude had some rough times with addiction. Alcohol, amphetamines, barbiturates....

It likely cost him his first marriage and he struggled with it his entire life. The movie "Walk the Line", about Cash, features his substance abuse quite prominently.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Cash#Personal_life

Throughout their marriage, June attempted to keep Cash off amphetamines, often taking his drugs and flushing them down the toilet. June remained with him even throughout his multiple admissions for rehabilitation treatment and decades of drug addiction.

Dude also died less than a year after filming the music video, shortly after his (second) wife, June.

Reznor and Cash both struggled with addiction and guilt for the damage their addiction caused to those they cared about.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago

So what does his cover bring to the table? And do you think it would be as big as it is without his name attached to it?

[-] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

I think the perspective is very valuable. When Trent wrote the song, he was still young. It gives time to atone, to grow, to do better. When Cash covered it, it was near the end of his life. He doesn't have the luxury of time to make up for his shortcomings. It's a lot more fatalistic.

To answer your second question, no. I don't think it would be as big without his name attached. Johnny Cash was so big, so iconic, that of course anything attached to him would get more attention. And the fact that more people are familiar with his life story and why this song would resonate so deeply with him definitely helped to spread the cover as well.

To answer your unasked third question, personally I prefer the original. I do appreciate Cash's cover though, and am glad he made it.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago

wasn’t exactly a tortured artist

You sure? Do you need to learn more?

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

To me that album was a man facing his mortality and impending death.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

True, but like Watchtower by Hendrix, the covering artist to the original's lunch money, and now that song is his.

[+] g_the_b@lemmy.world -18 points 4 months ago

I just can't shake the feeling that the only way Johnny Cash COULD find any relevancy was to cover am edgy song. The Johnny Cash version just sounds like an old man trying to be cool, it's really lame.

[-] deddit@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Holy cow, that one brain cell you have is working overtime. How about you lookup the history of that album, which was produced by the legendary producer Rick Rubin.

https://www.loudersound.com/features/it-really-upset-me-and-it-really-affected-me-the-story-of-johnny-cashs-haunting-hurt

[-] g_the_b@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago

It still sucks though? If he had anything meaningful to say he works have written a new hit song. Who gives a fuck who produced an album anyway? Like somehow that means it's good?

[-] deddit@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Rick Rubin on convincing Johnny Cash to cover Hurt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-7_loqsEWY

[-] g_the_b@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

This is good context, thanks for sharing that. I guess it's kind of like Annie Lennox covering "No More I Love Yous" in a full on album of cover songs. Knowing that it wasn't Johnny Cash thinking he could do a better job than Trent Reznor makes it much more palatable.

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