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I'm just curious for the new or existing people? Lemmy.ml has taken a hard turn to the right since the reddit exodus. There's been a lot of pro-imperialist propaganda being posted on world news, and a lot less diversity of opinion. It feels more neoliberal and neo-con to me.

Does anyone want to share what their political leanings are?

I'll start; I'm anti-imperialist pro-state regulated capitalism. I believe we should have usage based taxes (toll roads, carbon tax) and luxury taxes, and I disagree with wealth taxes for people with less than $250 million. The state should spend more money on consumer protection in all industries (environment, health, finance, etc.) I believe in multipolarity vs. US hegemony.

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[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Syndicalist. A federation of industrial unions could run society as a whole in a way that benefits all.

[-] leanleft@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

fluid is good except that it also means easy for politicians to manipulate. and zero loyalty for longterm goals that require patience and sacrifice.

[-] LordBelphegor@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

Social Democrat.

Lots of anti monopoly pro consumer regulations. But freedom to have private enterprise. High income and corporate tax. Free healthcare & education. Even rare diseases and university. Corporations can only lease and never own land. Govt ownership of essential industries like electricity, water, gas.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what box I fit into.

  • I am generally anti-capitalism. The current system does not benefit human. We are constantly exploited in the name of profits
  • vital industries and services need to be nationalized. Capitalism is a race to the bottom when it comes to providing the bare minumum, cutting corners etc.
  • people should be free to do what they please as long as it doesn't hurt other people. To this end, I am pro-inclusion of all walks of life, except for bigots.
  • we are rapidly running out of time to prevent an ecological apocalypse. Everything must be done to avoid it
[-] tikiti@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

we are rapidly running out of time to prevent an ecological apocalypse. Everything must be done to avoid it

I think we more or less are either too late to stop it or are unable to stop it. I think we should instead be focused on planning mitigations for the future. I expect at some point in the next century or two there will be large migrations of people from the equator going to the north (places like Russia or Canada).

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Both will be necessary but it’s worth noting that the more we’ve emitted, the more damaging each additional unit of emissions becomes. So arguably it’s even more important to focus on emissions reductions because it’s too late to completely stop warming at this point. Even a small reduction in emissions may have cause a meaningful reduction in human suffering.

[-] communist@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago
[-] anarchist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am a Social Democrat in the European sense. There is nothing wrong with the free market per se, but it is the responsibility of the state to intervene with regulation where necessary (e.g. safety), and the responsibility of the state to provide a stable system of social services, e.g. health care, education, housing.

I’ll point to Austria as an example, where social housing is widespread and high quality and public health care is exceptional and pensions are reasonable. With this backdrop, the market economy is appropriate.

I don’t think the unregulated capitalism of countries like the US is sustainable nor would I want to live under that dysfunctional system.

[-] bren42069@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

i'm a radical extremist voluntaryist anarchist. I believe that if it's not voluntary, it's slavery, thus government is slavery. I believe that all transactions between people should be consensual. I believe that people have a right to do what they want as long as they don't cause damage to anyone. I don't believe anyone has the right to attack anyone else, to force them to do something they don't want to do or force them to stop doing something that they want to do if it's harming no one. but I believe that it is every person's right and duty to protect themselves against aggression, to whatever extent is necessary to make the aggressor stop.

these principles are timeless and are so simple that even a child can understand them. if everyone started living this way, the world would be set free.

[-] Lets_taco_bout_it@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Just conservative not a republican because I feel they've lost their way as much as democrats did.

Elephants and asses, screwing the masses.

[-] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

As I've gotten older I find myself being more of a conservative in the true definition of the term: a preference for slow and steady change, caution towards new ideas, and some amount of reverence for tradition.

The issue is that the Republican party is not a Conservative Party. Joe Biden is a Conservative. The Republican party is a party for Reaction and Neoliberalism.

[-] Tyrannosauralisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, very much this. As a scientist, my place on the political spectrum ought to be looking at a proposed change that is supposed to help and demanding "prove it" (and providing said proof when possible within my field). The hard part is then being ready to accept proof when given and swap my stance accordingly from opposition to agreement. This is where conservatives have failed. (People also need to accept that in the real world it'll probably be imperfect proof and come up with reasonable expectations for what counts as adequate proof, ideally based on expert review.)

But at this point there are many good ideas (like housing-first approaches to homelessness) that are well supported by data but are being held back because of "common sense" and emotions (we can't just give people free housing!). So instead my place is sitting with the Progressives and saying "holy shit, how can we get conservatives to listen to reason?"

[-] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

As funny as it seems to say, I feel that "Conservativism" is unfairly maligned. Most of the bad things about what is called "Conservativism" are not really parts of Conservativism at all but are ideologies associated with Conservativism - "Rugged Individualism", Neoliberalism in general, religious fundamentalism.

We'll probably disagree on this point (and that's okay), but you can look at China. China is a very conservative country, with strong cultural values regarding family, social conformism, and civic nationalism. It is Conservativism without Capitalism, Individualism, or Religion.

[-] Widowmaker_Best_Girl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty much somewhere between a centrist and a libertarian. I think government has a bit too much overreach in people's lives and they screw with people who aren't harming anyone or just minding their own business.

I won't go full libertarian or anarchist, because I do recognize the need for government funded services in some areas.

In terms of economics, yeah pretty much a centrist. I think capitalism is the best way of giving everyone an equal opportunity, but also it needs to be regulated here and there with government intervention.

TL;DR Centrist who is a bit more libertarian than others.

[-] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 1 points 1 year ago

I am libertarian.

Less government. Less rules. Less restrictions.

I don't give a rats ass if you want to smoke pot, get abortions. etc. I support individual rights and freedoms.

[-] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

What happened on lemmy.ml? That place is moderated by tankies with their finger on the ban trigger, so I am skeptical if you mean "hard turn to the right" or "normal people calling out the propaganda that my echo chamber used to shield me from."

To answer the question, I'm a radical anarchist, no state, no money, no bosses, no landlords, no compromises.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

World News is hosted on Lemmy.ml and since you use the term Tankie I suppose you're biased and may not see the shift in what articles are upvoted the most on that sub.

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 0 points 1 year ago

(Be kind, not trying to start a flame war) I keep seeing this thrown around, what is a “tankie” and what’s it got to do with that Lemmy instance?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago
[-] howdy@thesimplecorner.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of my friends think I'm an idealist but I'd argue that's the point. I vote for whatever would allow us to get to the Star Trek: TNG version of earth. A Post Scarcity society where humans want to better themselves and their communities through each individuals pursuit of their interests unrestricted by any "system". To get there, I care about improving the lives of the entirety of humanity equally while doing away with the disparity inequality we see. It is undoubtedly true capitalism did raise the average QOL of many many people of the entire world, however, others it put into modern slavery.

[-] nachtigall@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago

I like this idea, but I disagree with the last sentence. The improvement in the average quality of life does not come from the capitalist system, but from technological and scientific progress.

[-] howdy@thesimplecorner.org 0 points 1 year ago

But was that also spurred at least in part often times for the pursuit of profit? I don't disagree, you have a good point!

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Consider how quickly USSR developed after the revolution. It went from an agrarian society to being the first in space while doing most of the work in WW2. USSR accomplished a century's worth of capitalist development in a few decades.

[-] pancake@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I'm a Marxist-Leninist, member of an organized group.

I believe countries try to shape and weaponize citizens' opinions about other countries, so I refuse to defend or criticize them unless I can argue that doing so is beneficial to my ideas (i.e., not based on feelings or ethics). Thus, I'm neutral towards most countries and defend multipolarity.

I tend to doubt my ideas as much as I can.

[-] EchoCT@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

ML. Authleft enough that Libs will call me a Tankie.

[-] Zarxrax@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

When I was first becoming an adult (in the USA), I got into politics from talk radio. I became staunchly libertarian, perhaps a bit conservative learning. Over the years, as I started to gain more life experience, started to actually think about certain issues some more, hear more opposing viewpoints, and actually see how stuff played out over time, I slowly began turning more liberal. These days, I would say that I am left of center and mostly align with the Democratic party for voting purposes.

[-] freeman@lemmy.pub 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s interesting. I kinda did the opposite. Was raised in a fairly liberal house and went to college.

But as I got older and gained experience have drifted more towards some almagamation of a libertarian mindset. Libertarians suffer severely from a “no true Scott’s man “ thing. So i politically don’t really have a home and it depends on a candidate. And if you ask many they may write me off as an opponent or undesirable based on a single policy stance.

Overall I feel the government means well but often doesn’t DO well or implement well as thus I am more hesistant for social programs as I get older. Like I’m not one of those taxes are theft people but just that government should keep to very specific and targeted programs and not try and be a regulation solution for everything. Only regulate when it’s clear a market can’t do so itself and negatively affects the people, like in banking.

But when it gets huge and unwieldy things go south quick. Like healthcare for all would be awesome, but then you look at how Medicare is ran or the VA and I get big time squirrly feelings.

Similarly with things like gun control. The theres no legislation that will solve the cultural issues that lead to all types of gun deaths. And what legislation is out there, even at the state level is often totally based on false premises and thus doesn’t solve the issues they intend to.

So just like I feel abortion is a deeply personal choice and if someone is self aware enough to know they won’t be a good parent they should make that call, especially if the alternative is the government having to raise kids (cause foster care is a mess). I feel similarly about gun control.

In most things I probs lean left on the American spectrum. But honestly there are few in our current political system that I can point to an be like “them, I really like them!”

[-] minorsecond@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

This is precisely my experience. I am a recovering big L Libertarian (in the USA sense). Now I'd say I'm liberal, slowly moving more left.

[-] Addfwyn@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Marxist-Leninist. Of the type that would probably unironically be referred to as a tankie.

I don't see capitalism as a sustainable model for the world, you cannot grow infinitely with finite resources, and there is no way effective way to "reform the system from the inside". Capitalists will actively sabotage such efforts as they go against their own best interests; they are dead set on convincing labor that it is also against their best interests, and have been depressingly effective at doing so.

I believe that humanity will naturally move towards a more communist world order as a unipolarity gives way to a multipolar world. Probably not within my lifetime, but either humans will get there eventually or we will die out trying.

[-] TechyDad@beehaw.org -1 points 1 year ago

Republicans seem to want to turn back the clock to the 1950's and in one aspect I agree with them. The top tax rate back then was 90%. That should be returned for anyone making over $10 million.

Unlike Republicans, though, I think people should be free to be who they are - whether they're LGBTQ or straight/cisgender, black or white, Christian or Jewish or atheist, or any other group I didn't list. (I didn't list all groups only because I don't want this comment to be novel length.) Basically, as long as your actions affect only yourself and consenting adults, I'm fine with them.

I'm also fine with parents having some control over what their kids do. I'm a parent myself and know that as a parent you need to make judgement calls as to what's best for your child. I wouldn't want someone else questioning my parenting based on their beliefs. However, there are limits. If your child is LGBTQ and you try to force them to be straight/cisgender, you aren't acting in your child's best interests. If your 10 year old child is raped and their life is in danger, but you refuse to allow them to have an abortion because your religion doesn't allow it, then you're harming your child.

Also, a person's "parental rights" shouldn't mean that they get to decide that certain books are banned from everyone reading them. My son actually just finished reading a book because it had been banned and we laughed over how innocuous the "ban triggering passage" was compared to some stuff in the Bible.

Basically, I think I'd call myself a Pragmatic Progressive. I advocate for progressive causes, but I also realize that society can often be slower to adapt than we like. While we would love to be able to pass X and have it be widely adopted immediately, there's often a series of slow moving battles to get X passed and another slow march to get wide acceptance. We can't simply throw in the political towel at the first setback. Neither can we pass up 10% of our goal being within our grasp because we're holding out for 100%. We need to get whatever advancements we can while continually pushing for more.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

I'm a Marxist-Leninist, I believe that the means of production should be owned by the workers and that the purpose of work is to produce things we all need to meet our collective needs.

Capitalism is a dead end ideology which leads to concentration of wealth in the hands of a tiny minority by design, and this minority of oligarchs exploits the rest of the people to subsidize their lavish lifestyle.

Furthermore, any system based around constant growth and consumerism is fundamentally incompatible with our continual survival as a species. We need a system that strives for sustainable use of our resources.

[-] Abel@lemmy.nerdcore.social -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trotskyist, which is basically "commie but against red fascism"

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