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'There Are No Kings in America': Biden Blasts Supreme Court, Issues Dire Warning After Immunity Ruling (dailyboulder.com)

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“(With) today’s Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, that fundamentally changed. For all practical purposes, there are virtually no limits on what the president can do. It’s a fundamentally new principle and it’s a dangerous precedent because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law even including the supreme court of the United States.”

Throughout his address, Biden underscored the gravity of the moment, emphasizing that the only barrier to the president’s authority now lies in the personal restraint of the officeholder. He warned vehemently against the prospect of Trump returning to power, painting a stark picture of the dangers such an outcome could pose.

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[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 308 points 4 months ago

Then fucking do something about it Joe! The DNC has been little more than passive observers to the raise of fascism.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 80 points 4 months ago

Since we're talking about a SCOTUS ruling, it would be on Congress to pass legislation.

And to follow up on @teodor_from_achewood@lemmy.world's comment, the Democratic National Committee is a private party organization that supports Democratic candidates in elections. They have nothing to do with passing legislation.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 114 points 4 months ago

It's on Biden to personally demonstrate to SCOTUS just how dangerous the ruling was.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 70 points 4 months ago

By calling for drone strikes on SCOTUS, yes.

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[-] teodor_from_achewood@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

"The DNC" doesn't do what you think it does.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

It doesn't do what it should.

The point of the party is supposed to be long-term strategy and putting the platform over any one person.

When people talk about what the DNC should be doing, it's not some "gotchya" to point out that they're not doing their job and leadership needs replaced.

It's just proving their point

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[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 231 points 4 months ago

He’s so pissed about it he’s gonna do absolutely nothing!

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 50 points 4 months ago

I would love to see him detain every scotus justice and stash em in a safe house for their protection/national security. Give them no freedom of movement or agency over their lives... see if they change their tune.

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[-] neidu2@feddit.nl 167 points 4 months ago

So, Biden can order seal team 6 to permanently fix the Supreme Court by removing 6 and leaving 3 alive. Gotcha.

After all, those 6 argued that he has the right to do so.

[-] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 81 points 4 months ago

Democrats will continue to give sternly worded remarks all the way up to their appointment with the gallows, so brave!

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[-] FattestMattest@lemmy.world 64 points 4 months ago

I declare an official act of presidency!

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[-] Bye@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

Only if he claims it’s an official act though! Don’t forget that part! Write “official act as president” on everything!

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[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 122 points 4 months ago

If only he were in some position of power to do something about it hmmmmmm.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 116 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Dumbass and spineless Biden and Democrats. The supreme court literally just started that America had a king but this dumbass party would rather take some stupid fucking high road bullshit instead of playing the game to ensure the fascist fuck around and find out.

They don't even have to resort to assassinations, they could really tell the IRS to audit 501(c) and remove their status from the churches and bullshit Republican charities, or tell the justice department to focus on domestic terrorism and corruption to fuck over Republican groups and representatives, or tell the FDA to allow the sale of raw milk.

Play the god damn game and be the fucking king if these corrupt justice says there's a king.

[-] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That is a guaranteed path to fascism.

I'm not gonna say that the chances are good, but if they refuse, and win, and then walk back the changes, maybe fascism can be averted.

If they walk into using these tools and normalise them even more, then when the other party gets the government again, you get a republican fascist, and if the other party never gets the government again, it's because you got a "democrat" fascist.

Don't race to the bottom, everyone loses there.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, you use the fascist power granted by fascists to abuse the fascists who granted it in the first place. Power is the only thing that stops fascists. Start with a few nights in a black site for the justices who thought granting absolute power to the president was OK. If scotus already accepts fascism from their team it's already too late for your plan to work.

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[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I honestly don't know why anyone is strategising as if they're on the same side as dems or any politician. I'm not even convinced we have a common enemy in Trump, because they don't seem serious about beating him.

The question you should ask when voting is "Who is my preferred enemy?" Biden won't abuse the carte blanche immunity from criminal prosecution? Great, sounds like he's the weaker enemy, so vote for him. Force him to keep the position he clearly doesn't want. Force him to disappoint his base for another four years.

While he's doing that, get to work building alternatives that meet people's needs from the bottom up and wean them off of this criminal system, to undermine it and prepare people to thrive as it crumbles.

The great thing about this political theory of change is that it's the same regardless of who's in power. It decouples you from the capricious, disempowering shifts of electoral politics.

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[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 107 points 4 months ago

Ok Biden, time to do something about these fascists. They just gave you everything you need to squash the threat, on a silver platter fit for a king. It’s time to process the new information, understand the powers granted to you, and act - are you up to this task? Please don’t let America down, because you have asserted yourself as the only one who can now do anything about it.

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Never underestimate establishment Democrats' ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

[-] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fire a Justice..... Or you know a couple.....

Out of a cannon.

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[+] nobleshift@lemmy.world 90 points 4 months ago

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[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

Always beware of the fact, that the only thing hindering an all-out revolution is your fear of losing the scraps they throw at you. Gore Vidal

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

Because we're exhausted and can't afford to lose what little we all have. Even one day in jail can mean losing your job, even if charges are dropped. And a conviction could mean being stuck with only jobs that don't pay a living wage for the rest of your life and few of us have enough savings to survive that for long.

[-] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

The infrastructure for a national strike does not exist in America. You need a lot of labor to be organized, and it just isn't. We can barely get individual facilities to go on strike, let alone an entire country. We used to, and that's how we pressured politicians into the New Deal, but organized labor has been dismantled since then.

As for why we're not more like the French, a lot of it comes down to this: They have more unionized workers, as a fraction of the working population, than we do.

Perhaps we forget, here on our islands of leftist beliefs, but the average American is not a radical Socialist, Communist, or Anarchist. They are not tuned-in closely to politics, they are not media literate, they are not part of any active organization besides maybe a local church. They're not going to upend their lives over something they don't understand, without any way to plan with their coworkers.

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 86 points 4 months ago

Biden: The Supreme Court ruled I can do ANYTHING I WANT!

Also Biden: So I will do NOTHING! Please Vote kthxbai!

[-] ExFed@lemm.ee 34 points 4 months ago

Yes, because he actually cares about what the Constitution stands for, not just some adversarial power game. Claim the paradox of tolerance all you want, but fighting fire with fire here is just participating in the same race to the bottom that's destroying our democracy here in the USA.

[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

Preemptive strikes exist. Law does not need to apply after the fact if the law is allowed preventive measures.

And arguing about if one should take such a preventive strike, yes they should since the perp has already declared threatening intentions to cause immediate harm.

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[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 83 points 4 months ago

Wow it's a shame he's a fucking pussy who won't author an 'official act' to oust the supreme court.

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[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 73 points 4 months ago

"Biden Blasts Supreme Court" could have a whole new meaning after their latest ruling

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[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 63 points 4 months ago

What is to stop Biden from cancelling the upcoming election?

Being now his powers are effectively unchecked, couldn't he just call off the election as an official act. Rather than stupid shit like ordering assassination or deploying the military, just say "I'm cancelling the election until such time this ruling is overturned and a constitutional amendment is enacted that states that the president is not immune from criminal prosecution"

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 55 points 4 months ago

He doesn't need to cancel the elections. He just needs to wait until after the conventions, when congress and the supreme court are in recess. And then he issues an executive order barring convicted felons from holding federal office.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 30 points 4 months ago

That would be some very funny chaos

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 months ago

Saving that move for Trump. It's the dystopian future I guess we deserve.

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[-] Hawanja@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago

I like how every single one of these comments are blaming Biden and the Democrats for a supreme court ruling that the conservatives and Republicans enacted. How about we put the blame on the people who are actually doing the terrible things?

This is why the Republicans keep winning btw, because they're united.

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The 18th century British The British

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 36 points 4 months ago

Maybe he should wield his newfound power instead

[-] mrfriki@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is how dictatorships start. You know it, right?

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[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

Time to use these powers to clear out the Supreme Court and put in non corrupt assholes.

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[-] Fades@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

That's just not true. If you are a fascist and rich, you are a king. You can commit crimes in broad daylight and nothing can be done about it.

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