Hold up. The artist thinks the Virgin Mary is a good example of women having a right to their own bodies? This is a woman who was supposedly forcibly impregnated by a god. What bodily autonomy does her story exhibit?
The Christian kind, I suppose
It's fine to be Christian. I just don't understand how the artist's quote is relevant in any way to this piece of work they made or the defacement of it. The closest I can fathom is that it's a woman. The logic ends there.
I'm not sure if it's the artists intention or not, but it gets at the heart of a lot of misogyny. What could possibly be controversial about Mary giving birth? It's an interesting question to put to the (mostly) men who decry the installation.
I think they resent the reminder that a woman gave birth to their god. A woman having that kind of power and authority is abhorrent in their minds.
But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law,
Galatians 4:4
They should read their own book in that case.
To clarify: They know it. They just don't like being reminded. In their minds, any suggestion that women should have a more active role in the church hierarchy is borderline heresy.
No heresy about it. First Timothy. Are you a women who identifies as a Christian? If so you are too keep silent because the people with cocks are talking. Don't like? Stop worshipping a lie.
Never ever will get why women put up with the Abrahamic faiths. Be better to just stick a knife in the throat of their local shaman and get executed vs living a life as a sex doll.
Oh it's a great story about the lack of autonomy.
Warn your kids against Christianity, the entire religion is predicated on rape. Jesus is a rape baby. Full stop.
You mean to tell me someone did something as punk as beheading the virgin Mary and I can't even celebrate it because it was some traditionalist asshole trying to prove a dumb point?
Fuckin' LAAAAAME!
The person who did this is a Christian fundy. The opposite of punk.
Yeah that's what's so disappointing lol.
The work had drawn criticism from some Catholics, who said it was blasphemous.
I won't deny it's kind of an odd idea for a sculpture and clearly designed to create controversy, but claiming that it's blasphemous just confirms the fact that they don't know the definition of the word. It just depicts a defining moment in Christian history, whether you like the aesthetics or not... The Catholic church has definitely celebrated weirder things.
I'm convinced all of these issues are just about power. The men on charge just can't let women decide instead of men...even when it comes to what's in women's bodies ... BY destroying the art they're attempting to take the power,but in reality it just makes the piece stronger.
It is new art, the message has changed and it's even more powerful.
The interesting thing to me regarding both power and blasphemy is that by the fact that it was on display in a major cathedral, those in charge have already given it their blessing. Anyone calling "blasphemy" only looks like a fool.
So you have these "traditionalists" wanting to drag the Church backwards. But due to the hierarchical structure of the Catholic Church that's just not how it works. Church leadership has made significant progressive strides over the last decade, leaving people like this Tschugguel with only impotent rage and vandalism as their options. And as you state this only adds new context to the art, giving it more power and ensuring that their regressive goals are not taken seriously.
Meanwhile the Evangelicals have gone absolute nutters, I never thought I would see the day where the Catholics were the "progressive" church. But they play the long game, and have always changed along with society over the millenia.
That Mary is awfully pale for someone who trekked across the Middle East to give birth.
Tschugguel became a hero to traditionalists in 2019 when he snuck into a Vatican-area church, stole Amazonian Indigenous statues of pregnant women, and threw them into the Tiber River in a videotaped act that was quickly shared online.
Holy shit, what an asshole. Why is this guy so grossed out by pregnant women?
Why is this guy so grossed out by pregnant women?
Fucked around and found out which consequences it may have?
Wtf did I just read.
The artist who created the “crowning” sculpture, Esther Strauss, also condemned the destruction, according to the Linz diocese statement. “Most portraits of the Virgin Mary were made by men and have therefore often served patriarchal interests,” she said, adding that in her sculpture, “Mary gets her body back”.
"Crowning"... I think I might love this artist.
The face looks rather... Hapsburg.
I refuse to believe it wasn't a spiky haired 12 year old boy trying to impress some local toughs
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