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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 180 points 4 months ago

Every gun owner thinks they're a responsible gun owner.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 52 points 4 months ago

Loaded gun in a car door pocket? I don't think these people considered themselves responsible gun owners.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 93 points 4 months ago

No, I think they did. That's the problem.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 59 points 4 months ago

They probably considered themselves responsible parents as well.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

The point is what people claim to be and what people are, are different things.

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Here's a story for you. I've only really held a gun once, at a camp riflery range (very small calibers). I still end up doing a fair amount of gun research for understanding gun debates / safety practices, research for fiction where characters have to talk about guns, etc.

I have had to correct other Reddit users that are gun owners, about the workings of basic single-action revolvers, in a very deep/long thread. I briefly doubted myself and checked my own sources, and yes, I was correct and the gun owner was persisting off the idea I was wrong. I'm sure there's some responsible owners out there, but the fact there are so many bull-headed idiots about their guns, who still say they're responsible, should scare anyone.

The specific topic, if you're interested, was on the situation where an old-style revolver is loaded and cocked by an inexperienced user, who then wants to safely decock/unload the gun without firing it (at that point, the cylinder is locked so basic approaches won't work). Feel free to look it up - the approach needed there is pretty damn stupid.

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[-] capital@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

These people also left their 2 year old in the car by himself while they shopped.

These people are fucking morons, gun or no gun.

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 165 points 4 months ago

It’s unclear if the parents –  identified by family as Sam Odums and Laileighauna Parks – will face charges in the incident.

The owner absolutely should be charged. Clearly the gun was unsecured.

Also, it was over 90°F in Douglas, GA. You don't leave a fucking toddler in your car with that kind of heat.

[-] Hexarei@programming.dev 50 points 4 months ago

Even if the AC was left on, I'd have never left my kid in the car alone at 2. So many ways that can go wrong.

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[-] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 125 points 4 months ago

that sentence got more American with every word

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 94 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Maybe the kid killed himself so he wouldn't have to slowly die of heat stroke because his idiot parents left him alone in a car (edit: WITH A LOADED GUN WHAT THE FUCK) in a Walmart parking lot.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 69 points 4 months ago

It’s too easy to make a baby. It’s really a problem.

[-] thenextguy@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

"You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog. You need a license to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father. " - Keanu Reeves as Tod Higgins, Parenthood (1989).

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[-] NataliePortland@lemmy.ca 49 points 4 months ago

Every word of that sentence made it worse. Flip those patents straight to heck

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Forkin’ A

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

For everyone focusing on the toddler alone in a hot car part. This was a fireworks stand. So they were probably 10 to 20 feet away. We can hope they opened the windows, which would make it roughly the same temp as where they were. So let's refocus on the gun please.

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[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

The question of whether we need to be armed to be capable of defending ourselves against tyrannical governments coming for our lives should have come after the question of whether we are capable of defending ourselves against ourselves.

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[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 months ago

I hate every single part about this headline.

[-] LdyMeow@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 months ago
[-] LdyMeow@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago

Also what? The grandmother started a gofundme to pay for the funeral costs, so ‘the parents can grieve’?

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 57 points 4 months ago

Idiots or not they still grieve.

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 22 points 4 months ago

Yeah I definitely don't get the "what" factor in that.

Funerals aren't free and they might not have the money for it, so not having to pay for it would take some burden off them. Yes, they did something incredibly stupid but they've already paid an incalculable price for it.

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[-] Neurotoxin@lemmus.org 24 points 4 months ago

Imagine walking back to your car to get your kid and seeing the scene in Pulp Fiction...yikes

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Leaving an unsecured and loaded weapon in a car with an unsupervised toddler? Sorry for the kid, but the parents fully deserve to see this.

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 24 points 4 months ago

The ONLY ONLY ONLY LITERALLY ONLY way to have Prevented this was if the Toddler killed the Gun before the Gun was able to be used to Kill the Toddler! There's LITERALLY NO OTHER WAY this could have been prevented! Either that or make it Illegal for BLACK PEOPLE to have a Gun!

-Not Racist Republicans!

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The only one who can stop a bad toddler with a gun, is a good toddler with a gun

~Republicans, probably

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[-] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

As an advocate of the 2nd amendment who thinks gun regulations need to be more strict assessing theental health of anyone purchasing a gun, I find it very hard to believe parents who leave a child in a hot car with a loaded gun to both go into a store to shop could pass any test of their fucking mental stability. This had to be premeditated whether they can prove it legally. Someone else in the thread said it was 90F when this happened so when you add it all up, a toddler was left out if their carseat, with a loaded gun, in either a running vehicle the kid could've kicked into gear accidently or in a vehicle that wasn't running on a fucking 90 degree day. Way too many cognizant decisions were made to not charge them with 1st degree murder.

[-] SapientLasagna@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago

As a non-American, it's crazy to me that there (apparently) aren't any safe storage laws enforced. Would it really infringe people's gun rights to require that all firearms may only be in a safe, in your hands, or on your person (in a holster, sling, etc.)?

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[-] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago

So much WTF. Leaving a toddler alone in the car in the middle of Summer with an unsecured loaded firearm in car.

I feel bad for the kid. The only silver lining here is that the parents are keeping their stupidity out of the gene pool.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Sorry for the kid, but 2A is more important than that. /s

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I don't leave my carry gun around my adult GF or untrained friends.....everything else is locked up. WTF

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