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submitted 1 year ago by trashhalo@beehaw.org to c/gaming@beehaw.org

Aging gamers were reportedly delighted to see that a new video game called Eldric Quest has accessibility features catered specifically to people their age who do not have enough time to actually play a video game.

“I came back from the office at around 7 p.m. and was so happy to see this mode implemented because holy shit am I tired,”

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[-] Sentinian@lemmy.one 142 points 1 year ago

I know this is satire but I would definitely play a mode like this. I may only be 20 but a 10 hour shift plus nearly 2 hour train rides kill me

[-] freeman@lemmy.pub 31 points 1 year ago

I mean many games usually have an easy mode.

I frequently play on it.

[-] milkytoast@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

yeah I'm glad I've kind of let myself play in easy, I enjoy games much more that way

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[-] SamPond@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago

I only realized it was satire after I opened the thread and saw it was HardDrive, not only did it feel something a game would do (probably a New Blood game) but I was also genuinely stoked

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[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

It's not just about difficulty though; some games are designed to be really long. Looking at some of the RPGs out there, like Divinity: Original Sin.

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[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

Dear god. I burned out around your age with a similar work schedule. Less commute but more work hours. Took me years to recover.

If your situation allows, please find yourself a better work and commute setup. Your boss isn't going to care that you're dying inside, especially when they've grown accustomed to everything you get done running yourself ragged. If you can, start doing less at work so you have energy to search for other jobs.

In some workplaces, it's actually better to let things slip so your boss can push for more manpower.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 56 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's the difficulty of games that makes them take so long for me. Just that everything is so bloated now. There's so much to do, but so little of it actually adds to the experience.

I appreciate that a lot of games have realised this and let you differentiate between "go this way to see the end of the game" and "here is some bullshit if you're not getting another game until Christmas".

Like sure, I could deliver every parcel in Death Stranding, and really get into the class fantasy of being a post apocalyptic Deliveroo driver, but I'm just mainlining the story quests at this point. Which is taking long enough on its own.

[-] boot@lemmy.loungerat.io 10 points 1 year ago

The new assassin's Creed games feel like this to me as well. I ended up feeling like i had sunk 4000 hours into Valhalla and just stopped giving a shit lol

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[-] distractedcactus@beehaw.org 50 points 1 year ago

I would absolutely choose this mode without any shame. I already spend plenty of time in "Story Mode" difficulty; I don't care to spend hours of frustration trying to hit just the right dodge pattern for a boss because I no longer have the finger dexterity that I did when I was 20.

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 year ago

Real talk: I'd rather kill my hour bashing my head against something challenging then progress actively through something not challenging. "Beating the game" just isn't a drive for me. I play while it's fun, which often (but not always) involves the game being challenging, and often, unless the story has particularly gripped me, I don't care to "finish" it.

But that is me. A lot of people derive their enjoyment from progressing in games. Good, adaptable difficulty settings are so important for games, and the sooner we recognize that instead of shaming people for wanting things the be accessible, the better.

[-] rikudou 27 points 1 year ago

For me it's about the story, I basically only play games that have an interesting story (and some Vampire Survivors here and there). So I don't care for challenge or progress.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

for me its like playing with action figures. pew pew. zap. I put up my impenetrable forcefield.

[-] Sentinian@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago

A good game should present a fair challenge but also not explicitly just waste your time. I like difficulty but when I feel my time is being wasted I just quit.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 41 points 1 year ago

I feel like a time wizard because I'm like 40, date several people, have a full time job, and still play games and read books. Where is everyone else's time going??

Is it kids? I don't have a kid. That might do it.

[-] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago

It's the kids. Kids take a lot of time. Most folks our age with kids don't have any time to themselves until it's 9/10 at night, then still have chores & work the next day.

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[-] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 14 points 1 year ago

As a dad with two kids who still finds time to play games. It's the kids. I have to give up sleep to do it.

[-] SevYote@pawb.social 38 points 1 year ago

Main reason games like Deathloop, Outer Wilds, Gunfire Reborn, Slay the Spire, Vampire Survivors, etc. got their hooks in me so deep - something I can sit down, fire up to play solo (it's tough as hell to get friends together to squad in games when all your friends are also 35 and busy), knock out a 30min - 2hr play session, and put down without feeling like I'm in the middle of something.

Love how many games there are these days who play like this. Seems like rogue-lites do it best, but it's nice to see other genres making it work, too.

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

To be fair, that's also a list of very high quality games.

I know Death loop got a lot of shit for its AI, but it's honestly a criminally underrated game.

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[-] Oneeightnine@feddit.uk 36 points 1 year ago

I play an awful lot of games on easy mode now anyway, unless I'm going in specifically to learn the game (Fromsoft games for example). If I'm playing a random open world game or a FPS I'm gonna knock that difficulty down to make life a little easier.

Time. I'd rather not do this, but I get like maybe five hours a week to play. The days where I can sit down on weekends and just...game are long gone, and likely won't return until the kids are much older.

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[-] HalJor@beehaw.org 34 points 1 year ago

I'm 55 and I hate this. Yeah, I know, it's satire. So is mine. Kinda.

[-] Xero@infosec.pub 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am also 55. And every time I get spanked in Destiny 2 pvp I am reminded that my reflexes are now shit, and my days of pvp glory in UT and CS are decades behind me. I'm officially a pve player now.

[-] sylverstream@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 year ago

41 yo here. Definitely feeling the same. What pve games do you play? I'm on xbox, just checking Deep Rock Galactic.

[-] chahk@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

City builder simulators like Foundation or Cities: Skylines. Anything with a Pause button.

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[-] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 year ago

Yes please. I have a kid. I can't die 20 times to a boss just so I can learn its moves and defeat it.

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[-] MrSilkworm@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

really like the implementation. I remember playing the Witcher 3 on easy mode just to be able to go through the story and enjoy the fantastic scenery. One of the best gaming experiences of my life. especially on an ultra wide monitor

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[-] Zapp@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago

"We’re here for you and we know that being 35 is really really really old, whether you’re willing to admit it or not."

I feel seen.

[-] Calcharger@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Do you know how defeated I feel having to select easy mode every time now?

Sorry I can't devote 8 hours on Saturday and Sunday to bruise my way through. I have yard work to do, dogs to entertain and a lady to woo

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

It's literally fine though because hard mode doesn't mean anything more than you do less damage and the enemies do more in 99% of the games out there. You're not missing extra gameplay or narrative. You just slide two real basic siders up and down.

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[-] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

As a 40yr old developer of a FOSS RTS game (not released yet), I generally aim at games taking from 20 - 30 minutes. This is because I usually have only about 1 or 2 hours to play games with the bois after work. Additionally, I am usually extremely tired, so I try to implement a lot of QOL features that make the game less arduous to play.

Recently a popular RTS game that uses the same engine as mine has had a lot of sweats complaining about widgets (Long story, but they are unsynced bits of lua code that can extend things. They have limited access to the synced state, but are still pretty powerful). Basically people complaining about a specific widget that will make your units try to stay at max range when in a fight. While this sounds pretty useful, in the case of players who are relatively decent with rts gameplay, it's more of an irritation to deal with than anything else.

But as a developer of this type of game, I have a vested interest in making players who aren't as good be able to compete with players like myself who are really good. If that means some (very) rudimentary AI will try to make your units behave somewhat intelligently when you aren't paying attention, I'm totally down for that. I find that as I get older, even though I am extremely experienced and good in rts games, I appreciate such tools existing for the players who simply aren't that great. I don't get my dopamine hits from steamrolling another player, I get my hits from good fights and satisfying battles. A lot of people I talk to make me feel like an outlier, but I know good and goddamn well that there are a lot of lesser skilled players that just wouldn't bother with speaking up.

I have a very large problem with games that don't respect my time. Elite Dangerous is a perfect example. I avoided it for a very long time because people went on and on about how hard it was to fly. Turns out, anyone who played descent 1 and descent 2 (And now Overload on steam (seriously, buy this shit, it's modern descent built by the original devs and it's amazing)) can fly the crafts with ease. The space combat is pretty shit tier. However, it's gorgeous, and super cool, BUT, the developers refuse to implement any sort of fast travel. The sheer amount of time that it takes to get anywhere is mind boggling. I would spent 6 hours flying on a day off, and still not manage to really get anything done. This is the perfect example of a game that does not respect my time. I HATE games like this. I try to understand that time literally is money. That isn't only a cliche. As you get older, you realize that time is a resource, and as you get older, you find that you have so little free time, that any time lost can be a really heavy blow.

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[-] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

Make this but for real, though

[-] sculd@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure a lot of people will embrace this mode if it exists. When you are an adult with responsibilities, beating a "challenging" game simply isn't a priority.

[-] Pixlbabble@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Easy....Stop buying new games.

[-] Sentinian@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago

This isn't a new game only issue tho. Plenty of games waste your time wether it came out this year, 10, 20, 30 years ago. It can be moreso worse in the past due to limits in game design such as only saving at set checkpoints (or even saving at all if you go back far enough)

[-] Pixlbabble@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I've heard it since the mid 2000s when EGM (Electronic Gaming Magazine) couldn't keep up with what was coming out for reviews with Xbox push for indy's (which lead to more tools and more flooding) plus AAA games. That was before phone games were even a thing. So everyone started to move to podcasts like real early circa 2005 and video reviews like gamespot would do. Same time Steam was slowly roasting in the background. Few years go by Epic also starts do some moves. 2011 Twitch basically becomes the place to review a game by watching someone play it. That feeling almost felt like you didn't even to play the game because you watched it. 2012 Steam gets early access. The Market has been flooded for a decade not to mention so many games became templates of each other. What's my point? There's a ton of great things to play in many different genres that go back to the inception of games. Find what you like and enjoy it. There's so much media today, one of the reasons save states changed over time. I will not watch every show or every movie nor all the books, comicbooks and manga or put in time with all my other hobbies ie drawing, painting, sculpting. Hard trying to keep up with your friends, some might be better off than you or have more time than you. You get older shit changes, people schedules change, you are more tired and sleepy and probably have more responsibilities. This is life, go for a walk outside come back in and do something you enjoy. That being said I do enjoy quality of life changes in some games but in others it might lose the soul of the game. TLDR There's too much of everything and it's overwhelming.

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