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[-] ThrowawaySobriquet@lemmy.world 83 points 3 months ago

I went to a panel presentation on the early colonies around the Revolution once. When they took questions, I asked if there was any special logistical problems Virginia ran into after due to how large the territory was and man, they treated me like a fuckin idiot. I still think about that. It's not, like, important or anything I just don't have a therapist for this sort of shit

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 months ago

should have asked them why, if they were so set on being independent, they didn't change the name of the state to something OTHER than the queen of england

[-] ThrowawaySobriquet@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

At the time I was 22 and didn't have a firm grasp on the idea I could tell someone being rude to go fuck themselves. It was just a bunch of old folks pining for the glory days of national pride and dysentery, but like, fuck. Snuff out a curious light like that.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 months ago

kind of strange, the older i get (40smthg now), the less respect i have for people 20+ years older than me, and the more i have for 20+ years younger

[-] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago

I'm older but in the same boat. Unless those younger people are part of proud technological illiterati, which really pisses me off for some reason. Probably those 30 years of being an IT drone...

[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT2ScOwezL8

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

It's got a few answers. For the first one, the logistics were handled by not administering the territory, those were only claims. For the next one, logistics were handled by breaking them up into other territories that would become states since administering it wasn't feasible. In the third, it was possible, but it caused problems. The civil war was not the only grievance west virginia had. They had been neglected for the better part of a century. Richmond usually didn't care much about those on the other side of the mountains. In some ways the civil war was just a good time to do what they'd probably wanted to for awhile. Really the logistics are the reason virginia is the size and shape it is today. Now they have a capitol where they can be not cared for by locals.

[-] ThrowawaySobriquet@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

👊

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 months ago

Why did they treat you like that?

[-] ThrowawaySobriquet@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

No idea. I still wonder sometimes where the disconnect was, but I also just try to not let things like that get to me anymore. I'm having mixed success

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

~~Soon it’ll just be the peninsula. A bunch of ponies and Eastern Shore seasonals~~

Edit: was supposed to be a comment on the main post, fat fingered it, my bad

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago

So has anyone calculated by what year it won’t exist?

[-] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

2025

[-] RacoonVegetable@reddthat.com 12 points 3 months ago

Good

[-] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Maryland stands behind this opinion.

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[-] Toes@ani.social 11 points 3 months ago

Wait until you see it in 2034

[-] Brosplosion@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

Virginia has some interesting laws that kick into effect then. Google "Virginia Rule '34" for more info

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 5 points 3 months ago

Virginia Rule '34

Here's what I found

Wonder if that's what you are referring to.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Will there be any left to see?

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

Sure hope not.

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[-] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 months ago

Make it smaller. Make it the size of Wales.

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[-] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

I still don't understand why they named West Virginia so. Virginia has land further West. North Virginia?

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Historical context makes it even weirder. The split was because WV allied with the North in the Civil War, North Virginia makes infinitely more sense in more ways than one.

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[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago

the nucleus of Virginia Proper is further east

[-] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Where is the mitochondria of Virginia though?

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[-] Raab@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Moved to this God forsaken state from Wisconsin 4 years ago and God do I regret it with every ounce of my being. Someone take me back to cheese land please

[-] Belgdore@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

Well, just wait a while and Virginia will shrink again, and you will be in another state.

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

I much prefer the 1609 version. Why have natural borders when you can have an arbitrary diagonal line that splits the majority of the continent?

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 5 points 3 months ago

I'm told that India and Pakistan loved this setup, and still celebrate the arbitrary line to this day.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Well the last one they did to themselves

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, I'm just saying eventually, all that will be left of Virginia will be the Delmarva peninsula and then Maryland will claim it.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Woah, I never realized Virginia had a detached peninsula like Michigan

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It's imaginatively called "The Eastern Shore of Virginia."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Shore_of_Virginia

[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Delaware is going to take over the whole peninsula with Joe Biden leading the way. It's all part of his evil scheme to have Delaware take over the entire Mid-Atlantic region.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

"Listen, Jack. No foolin'. We take over the peninsula and the trains will be great."

[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

No one wants West Virginia

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

It's easy to shit on West Virginia now, but at least they were formed by splitting from Virginia in favor of abolishing slavery. That's pretty cool in my book.

[-] TommySalami@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

West by God Virginia. I spent a lot of time there reminding people we fought for the north.

[-] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago

You mean the birthplace of the labor movement where the US government used artillery on stinking miners?

The current government sucks, but the history has some truly glorious and revolutionary moments.

[-] Scribbd@feddit.nl 6 points 3 months ago

Just like magnetic pole flips, Virginia is due another shrink snap. It might snap out of existence when it happens.

[-] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Still trying to shake off the Eastern Shore...

Looking at you, Onancock...

[-] stinerman@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I wonder what the source is because in 1784, Connecticut made claims on the northeast part of Ohio (the Western Reserve). Virginia did have a claim on some part of central/southwest Ohio called the Virginia Military District, but that's all I'm aware of.

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Soon it’ll just be the peninsula. A bunch of ponies and Eastern Shore seasonals

[-] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

They know what they did.

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