As a nurse, I have to verify your name and birthdate 27 times a day to make sure I don't give you any medications that could kill you, but a cop is allowed to just assume. No triple checking verification of an address or person's identity.
Cool. Totally makes sense 👍
I work in the finance industry and it's similar. We have to be certain we're talking to the right person as fraud is rampant. This is ridiculous.
But you guys get training to do what you do as efficiently and correctly at possible.
Police also get training .... they spend about three quarters of their time training how to use a gun and look at the world as a place with nothing but suspects and criminals that are ready to kill them. Basically they are trained thugs to intimidate the public and keep people in line.
They are performing exactly how they were trained.
Now look at it another way:
How many police interactions didn’t go this way?
And conversely, how often does a nurse mess up and give someone a medication that could kill them, despite the training?
One thing I’ve learned over the years is that in any field, people are going to mess up, and the distribution is usually pretty standard across all fields.
So then the questions are:
The perception is that the police are lacking in both 1 and 2; I’d be interested to know the reality.
When a nurse messes up ... it may hurt a patient and possibly even kill them but it rarely happens
When an accountant messes up ... the client ends up losing money, get in trouble with their taxes and in the most extreme rare cases might even lead to the death of someone
When a police officer is mostly only ever trained to deal with any problem with a firearm ... when they mess up, they often severely hurt people and when it comes to guns is more likely to kill someone.
A nurses tools are mostly meant to heal people and only in large doses or in very unique doses or situations can it become deadly, in most situations, it takes a bit of effort for a nurse to kill someone
A financial professional would have to go insane and berserk to try to kill you with their bare hands ... their ability to kill you is the same as any other random person you would encounter
A police officer has multiple weapons that they legally carry with them that can severely wound or kill someone very easily ... namely, they legally carry guns, firearms, blunt weapons, tasers and potent pepper spray ... all of which could kill someone if used in the right way ... it's far easy for an officer to kill you than anyone else
Agreed; now go back and read what I wrote instead of what you think I wrote.
and the distribution is usually pretty standard across all fields.
Citation needed.
You really think a highly trained and tightly controlled job like air traffic controller screws up at the same rate as the high school kids stacking crackers at the grocery store?
Yes, and no. The difference is that ATC has processes in place to mitigate the mistakes and others to recover from them as quickly as possible. End result is that most people will never notice.
On average, people’s brains don’t fully develop until 25, so teenagers are expected to make more mistakes.
But the distribution of people making mistakes appears to be relatively even, the difference being what the processes in place enable/prevent.
And I’m going to be lazy and not cite anything.
Then I guess there's no reason for me to believe you aren't talking out your ass.
ACAB, always and forever.
The problem is that we think it's okay for police to treat criminals "like criminals". That's a euphemism for a whole lot of fucked up shit. Police owe us all the same professional and dilligent duty of care, whether they personally suspect us of committing a crime or not.
This is stuff you would expect in a third world country.
First world countries are those that are aligned with the USA in the cold war against the USSR. This is exactly what I would expect of a first world country.
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