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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 164 points 3 months ago

"I'm a never Trump guy"

joins his ticket

Classic conservative move

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago

Money and power are all they really want, and the former is really just a means to attain the latter anyway.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Don't forget sex. They're big on that.

[-] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Usually they go little actually.

Yuck, feels bad to say what they do.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I nearly made it explicit, but

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

You got it wrong... They want the latter in pursuit of the former. Politics is just a business model for them

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 38 points 3 months ago

George HW Bush called Reagan's trickle down tax cuts 'voo doo economics.'

That was before he got the nod to be Vice-president.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Hillbilly greed

[-] Coach@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Ohh...it's kinda like when they say, "I'm not a pedo."

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 88 points 3 months ago

I’ve seen “Trump is a fucking moron” countless times, but this is my first time seeing it from his former Secretary of State. Damn.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 61 points 3 months ago

He’s the source of the quote.

Sure, it’s a commonly-spoken truism, but Tillerson famously (and officially) said it in 2015 (?).

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 16 points 3 months ago

Guess I missed the original context. Thanks!

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

Trump was on TV a lot. I'm confident I've probably said/heard it personally before 2015.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I’m sure people have been saying this since another person first encountered him. Again, Rex Tillerson was just the person who most loudly and most publicly said it. And he’s the person people can officially quote as an official spokesman from his own administration who said it in an official context.

That’s what makes it notable

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Notable, but source of the quote? Rex Tillerson sounds like someone Trump made up.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Source of the official quote. As in an actual public official who said it during an official speech. Not just some yahoo off the street who happened to mention it in passing.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 62 points 3 months ago

"If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed ... and we will deserve it."

-lindsie gram

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 38 points 3 months ago

JD "Maybe it's Maybelline" Vance.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Lol I was just thinking it looked like he was wearing an obvious amount of eyeliner

[-] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

He's playing in his The Cure cover band (called Liberal Tears) later that night.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

Harris should bring Mattis in to the administration in some capacity. He’s smart, universally respected, and the guy bleeds red, white, and blue.

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

He got fucking dragged by Trumpworld after he resigned over Trump's stance on Afghanistan (or was it the Kurds?), it was probably one of the most severe about-faces I've ever seen from conservatives about one man. Went from a Marine's Marine, a warrior-scholar, to a complete disgrace to the Corps as far as they're concerned.

Really cemented my view of Trump as a cult of personality when I saw that narrative, and the base eating it up, in real time.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

It was because we abandoned the Kurds. Mattis felt very strongly on the matter. He also went to bat for transgender service members.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

It doesn't matter much in terms of election PR, as he's already "burned" in Trumpworld. He's not going to change many minds.

[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

Maddog Mattis was never a Trump loyalist. As a matter of fact ended up resigning because of his bullshit.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 21 points 3 months ago

Spineless republicans aka republicans

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Trumpers excuse all of this how? They think they know the guy better somehow?

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

They never said it.

But we have audio...

It's fake news...

But we have video....

It's fake news...

I am JD Vance, and I'm telling you Trump is Hitler!

That's just Satan talking...

[-] Species8472@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 months ago

As a european watching those 'maga' cult followers is disturbing. In the 1930s 'some guy' in Germany also rallied huge crowds cheering for him, no matter what he said or did. That same guy survived a assasination attempt.

[-] digdilem@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

Wow, that makes it seem like politicians will say whatever the person paying them wants them to!

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 17 points 3 months ago

Sure, "politicians". This is clearly a bOtH SiDeS issue! Except... Where are all the people who served on Biden's staff and why are they not saying similar things? What about Obama? Harris is the presumptive Nominee, where are the people who used to support her now calling her a danger? Hmm...

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Being silenced by the Deep State obviously... Remember the enemy is both weak and strong

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

JD's money man, (f)Elon's bff, and hulk hogan's knight in shining armor, Peter Thiel, is a 'deep state' FBI informant.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/billionaire-fbi-informant-peter-thiel-130944864.html

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

This is what happens when a party elects someone who has never been in politics. Not a mayor, a governor, a senator nor congressman. Just a conman celebrity so called billionaire.

Really by the people for the people huh.

They all realised that actually, he’s absolutely not qualified for anything to do with government in the slightest.

[-] norimee@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Divide and conquer" came from ~~the Romans.~~ ancient Greece.

The maxim divide et impera has been attributed to Philip II of Macedon. It was utilised by the Roman ruler Julius Caesar and the French emperor Napoleon... (Wikipedia)

~Thanks Rolando for the correction.~

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Wikipedia says Philip II of Macedon, but doesn't give a reference.

[-] Laser@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago
[-] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Who invented laser, though?

[-] norimee@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks. I wasn't aware and edited my comment accordingly.

[-] wieson@feddit.org 1 points 3 months ago

Exactly. I just looked it up to be extra sure, the wording itself is at least as old as Machiavelli and the strategy as old as antiquity. (Let's be honest, probably even prehistory).

The Nazis were delusional, but even in their wildest dreams they didn't plan to conquer the United States.

Americans are so historically illiterate, it hurts.

[-] LordTrychon@startrek.website 2 points 3 months ago

They may not have planned to invade... but I think they did plan to defeat... which is all the quote really is implying IMO.

I don't think anybody claimed that the Nazis coined the phrase though.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

At least one of those has dumbed down to change their tune. The rest need to get louder

this post was submitted on 23 Jul 2024
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