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Witness protection fbi [very serious] (sh.itjust.works)

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[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you really believe the things you're saying, you need to check yourself into a hospital. The odds that this is rea--as opposed to being a delusion--are very, very low. Some of the things you're talking about are mutually exclusive; for instance, Hell's Angels don't mix with Bloods, because Hell's Angels is a white MC (or, has enough wildly racist members that no non-white person is likely to get patched in), and the Bloods are a black street gang. These are not groups that play together. Then you add in right wing militias, which have very nearly zero crossover with either of them. (And Freemasons? They're just a fraternal order, not really any different than the Kiwanis Club.)

If your therapist didn't believe you, and was trying to get you on medication, that's a really, really strong indication that you need medication.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Plus, hey, OP. If you believe this, and truly think that your therapist really has it wrong, okay. There's a process for this. Go out and get a second opinion. But if they both agree...I mean, look. There are people in the world who do have paranoid delusions. Those people are real. And they certainly aren't making up the situation they're seeing. It feels real to them. The condition wouldn't exist if someone could just easily shrug it off. If you go to multiple experts and they say "I've looked through your case, and I'm pretty sure you really need these meds", I mean, you gotta have some point where you're willing to take their word for it. Otherwise, how would you ever be able to pick up on paranoia if you did have it?

[-] Eol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I've seen other people end up like this due to interactions with the same people. That's where the realness comes from. No one believed them either. I didn't believe them at the time. But that was years ago. They told me to my face things that I now realize are true. Not to mention is textbook crime methods and they, the abuser, openly brags about these types of actions in music.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

What you're describing is textbook schizophrenia. You don't have any specifics; everything is vague. You say as much in your question. This belief that you can see something that no one else can, and that everyone is part of a grand conspiracy, that's classic paranoia.

Medication can relieve those fantastical fears.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

I think there must be some disciplined way to differentiate between delusion and apprehension of a real situation, don’t you?

[-] Eol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah. I notice when it's paranoia and when it's real. I know this is real now. Because I've fucked with them back. There's an exact time frame after I pissed a certain person off. That person is very well connected with the underground lifestyle. I was completely fine before that event.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

I will say it’s pretty fucked up how the notion of a textbook delusion involving one being targeted by a group, socially isolates any individual who is targeted by a group.

I have an extremely rich fellow dedicating millions to an ongoing campaign. It’s personal, and it’s tailor made for me. I’m quite socially isolated anyway, so there’s no one close enough to me to care, let alone actually believe me when I say my reasons for believing this.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Sorry buddy, I know it's not what you want to hear because everything you are experiencing seems very real to you, but I worked with many people with mental illness and reading this feels just like that.

I know this is hard to accept, but try the medicine. You don't have to take it forever, but just try it for a few months. Make a video diary so you can look back and see any changes.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 3 months ago

I don’t know what OP wrote as he’s edited it out, but doesn’t the idea that “person reporting gang stalking must be delusional” just create a ripe environment for getting away with gang stalking?

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

I don’t know what OP wrote

So then...

doesn’t the idea that

The idea that you don't know if anyone is actually saying? Lol

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -2 points 3 months ago

OP thinks the bloods and the hells angels are working together. Anyone with any amount of knowledge of either could tell you why thats bullshit. Theyre white supremacists and black supremacists respectively

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Do you need to rat to get witness protection?

Isn't it answering itself? You need to be a witness, obviously. Officially. You want them to spend money on this and on you, so they need a real reason and justification for it.

What you seem to want is more like a "victim protection". I don't know how it's called. It might have another name.

Go and ask for it. Seriously. You need to ask for help anyway. Impossible to solve it all by yourself. Ask for help from real people (not just some random internet folks).

[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh jeez, you're another one of those gangstalking people, aren't you? I know there's no way you'll take me up on this because of the paranoia, but please see a therapist. No one here is equipped to help you with this, and if it goes anything like the last time, a bunch of well-meaning people will believe you and waste their time offering advice that doesn't work because this is all in your head.

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 months ago

Don't kill yourself, but maybe either talk to the police or a therapist

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 months ago

Talk to a therapist first. Police are useless and will only make the situation worse.

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

True

[-] Eol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Tried both. My therapist didn't believe anything I've been through, and I didn't want to go on medications that I don't actually need. I realize most "regular" people don't understand this type of crime and the life around it. I had an acquaintance that's a cop that didn't believe me. I told my highschool cop I think i figured out some real crime going on and he literally blocked me without responding. I have screen shots of that. My message wasnt crazy or anything ...he just blocked me straight away. I think my town, Epping NH might be under the thumb of organized crime. I've heard rumors Hells Angels own it. This guy that I found out about, his step dad, not the one wanted by the FBI, had connections with hells Angels. They run an auto business in town. Tbh I never would have cared if they weren't so abrasive and insecure about me finding out. But now that I've seen what they'll do to save there income......... Fuck my life. I have so much PTSD now. It's like they try to make me rat. Even if I don't kms I'll be dead soon because of how they obstruct progress in my life. I have no income. They prank call my employers etc and try to tarnish my name.

I am going to KMS if nothing works. I've been in the noise enough to pass out. This is so fucked up. Innocent people get hurt and naive people on here say this gang stalking type stuff is fake because they have no life experience outside of their simple world.

They may be responsible for this. https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/epping-nh-fire-death/3405354/

Among many other things equally as fucked up.

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 months ago

I'm not a psychologist and I don't know anything about you or your situation beyond this post, but it sounds like a psychologist could really help, and medication might actually be worth getting

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

A very similar thing happened to my brother, and the only way he was able to feel safe was to trust his doctor.

I'm as serious as you are, and I want you to feel safe and happy again. Please listen to your doctor.

[-] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

OP, if you feel the need, please call for help if you need it.

https://988lifeline.org/

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

If this isnt just a troll. Go check urself into a mental hospital cos thia looks a lot like ur juat have a mental breakdown. Go get some help and worse case scenario they will confirm its real and get u the help u need.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

What if they’re biased against the idea to the point they reject awareness of an actual real scenario?

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