Chrome’s Manifest V3, and its changes for ad blocking, are coming real soon : technology

[-] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago

Reminder #891,814 to stop using Chrome and Chromium browsers and to stop supporting Google's web monopoly.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago

3 more will do it! :p

[-] bokherif@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Why Chromium based browsers? I understand using Chrome might help Google, but how does using other browsers based on Chromium help them? By increasing market share?

[-] wito@lemmy.techtailors.net 15 points 3 months ago

Yes. It gives them leverage when working on standard specs. And it can lead to stagnation. The latter didn't happen yet, but they already tried to push their agenda multiple times already.

[-] Mora@pawb.social 10 points 3 months ago

And it can lead to stagnation. The latter didn't happen yet

I could argue that it already did when Google abandoned JPEG XL.

[-] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 1 points 3 months ago

That is a solid argument. I second this.

[-] Aurailious@beehaw.org 9 points 3 months ago

Hopefully Firefox won't follow.

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 3 months ago

Firefox currently has no plans to drop support for manifest V2. It also supports the WebRequest API in V3, so ad blocking would continue to work if they do discontinue V2.

[-] Aurailious@beehaw.org 6 points 3 months ago

Awesome!

[-] coffeejoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The only silver lining was they were also going to disable third party cookies, but they nixed that idea and kept this one. I’m done rooting for chrome.

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

They were gonna axe the cookies in return for a generalized profile in your browser or something.

[+] Deeleres@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This can be problem for Firefox and Chromium based Browsers, too. If the Website decides that Manifest v3 is mandatory to visit their site, they can block any access from Browsers with v2 running in the background easier than before.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 9 points 3 months ago

Websites don't get to see what addons are you running

[-] drwho@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator/plugins

https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/api/management#method-getAll

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/management/getAll

[-] oopsallnaps@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 months ago

Luckily the first link is for a deprecated property that returns a hard coded list for compatability reasons, and the other two are extension apis that random websites can't access.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 6 points 3 months ago

Besides, with uBO (or a custom addon or userscript) you can replace the value of that list, for all sites or selectively

[-] mihor@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Then I guess I simply won't frequent those sites.

[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

A site that does this is a site I'll never visit.

[-] Deeleres@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago

The other 95% of all visitors will still want to see this page. If the most visited websites use such a blocking method, then most visitors will use Chrome.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

This is why Google is a monopoly and needs to be broken up.

[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I mean. 95% of people uses, likes and tolerates shit I don't tolerate. I don't use said shit. My life has been shockingly fine that way.

[+] ppb1701@lemmy.today -12 points 3 months ago

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[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 39 points 3 months ago

Wait what? LOL

Firefox is compromised because Mozilla bought an AD Company but Brave, an AD Company is not? Brilliant.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You're both right, Brave has been compromised since the beginning, but Mozilla is also compromised.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 17 points 3 months ago

All Chromium based browsers are implicitly accepting money from an ad company because Google makes Chromium.

[-] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 5 points 3 months ago

Plus having any rendering engine have a monopoly is terrible for the web long term.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

Yep. Hey, maybe Ladybird will develop into a nice fourth option long term. As far as I know it's just Chromium, Mozilla, and Safari being actively developed. (I forget the names of their internal rendering images, I think blink, gecko, and webkit but I'm not sure.)

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I highly recommend waterfox

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