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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by IndiBrony@lemmy.world to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

This unfolded on "United States | News & Politics@midwest.social". Owner 'seahorse' showing the kind of person they are.

This is not how you run a server.

Edit: link to comment:

https://midwest.social/comment/11535311

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[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 3 months ago

Confirmed its real, and now I am blocking that instance. Thanks for the info. There is enough content on lemmy, a few instances can be excluded.

[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I personally think that's a bit much to block an entire instance over when just one admin is being mildly annoying. Their comment is basically nothing imo lol. Compare that to the OP of this post whose profile picture is a cartoon pony from a children's show having an orgasm.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 3 months ago

It's almost like a community made of opinionated nerds loves making fake drama and being whiny bitches in general.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 months ago

Oh I'll still see those users on different communities, because blocking the instance only stops their threads and communities from showing on my All sorted list

[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Added a link to the comment in my post. Thanks for reminding me!

[-] turtlepower@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

All that link does is try to send an email. You have to put a "!" in front of it: !Politics@midwest.social

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[-] casmael@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah it’s definitely real, I came across it in my feed before seeing this post. Guy seems like a real arsehole.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 37 points 3 months ago

So server admins are how we get the Reddit mod experience

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 17 points 3 months ago

But it is.

Lemmy isn't set up to create a set of fairly moderated communities with buy-in from users. It is set up so anyone can be a dictator on their own server.

[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 months ago

Yup. But thankfully, it's also set up so they can quickly become dictators of their own little desert island.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 months ago

Users can still quickly leave until they found a fair admin

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 7 points 3 months ago
[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And when the fair become unfair then we move onto the next, as it should be!

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 3 months ago

I feel like relying on benevolent dictators only to run communities isn't the best option.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago

That seems fairly un-hobbity, with all respect.

[-] nutomic@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Admins are legally responsible for anything that gets posted on their server, so they require control. They also put in time and money to keep the server running.

There may be other technologies where all-powerful admins aren't necessary, like peer-to-peer networks. But then everything gets much more complicated. No more opening a website and entering username and password, now users need to install a client first and use a private key. It's not clear who is responsible for moderation. Scaling will be much more difficult. Users don't want to store gigabytes of historical data on their devices, so some servers are still needed. The way Activitypub and Lemmy works is really a hybrid between normal websites which is a well-known paradigm, and p2p which is still experimental. The p2p part is only done on the server because it would be too complex otherwise.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 months ago

I'm not saying that admins don't require control. What I'm saying is that there isn't an ability to distribute admin and mod duties on Lemmy in a more granular sense. There is only one admin head or one mod head and that can lead to mod issues the same that Reddit had.

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[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

At some point one instance is going to have democratically elected mods and admins, that would be interesting.

In the meantime yeah, we are still using other people's servers

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

That's the beautiful thing about lemmy. If I don't like the current dictator, I can easily switch to a more benevolent leader.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago
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[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 months ago

Sorry to hear, I love the Lotr memes community

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Never too late to make your own. Especially if enough people decide this is worth blocking the instance entirely.

!theonion@sh.itjust.works

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

Thank god we’re doing things on more than world

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Yep, that's mainly why I hopped to it so fast.

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[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago

Indeed, but I have enough communities under my belt to be honest 😅

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Fair enough. The Onion community had pretty little traffic to begin with so I think I'll be fine.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 9 points 3 months ago

"Can't even downvote in Ohio"

For those who don't know what this means, but want to, you can read https://www.distractify.com/p/what-does-ohio-mean-slang and https://www.distractify.com/p/only-in-ohio-tiktok-meme.

TLDR it's a phrase that people use now similar to "Florida man".

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 3 months ago

yeah i have my problems with midwest. i think a succinct way to put it is that instance does not appreciate the federation process.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 7 points 3 months ago

I remember there was a far right mastodon server

[-] JonsJava@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I've never blocked an instance.

If I block an instance, that blocks all users too, right?

[-] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

..so was this about his take on the Gaza war? That he thought support for Palestine would lead to a loss of democracy?

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

No they’re saying that’s what people criticizing the protestors are arguing. I think their take is perfectly acceptable but the power tripping is pretty rough

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I'd have to look into the context but their edit kinda sours it no matter what.

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[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

What does "spits their dummy out" man in this context? Is it just "says dumb shit"?

[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It's like a baby throwing a little tantrum, essentially.

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